maxtherotti Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 as title chaps what would i need to do to get some 33x12.50x15 under my 93rrc? it has been converted to coils all ready (yeah i know ill need bigger springs tho) but retains the front shox being mounted further forward in front of the spring (does this matter??) also dont mind if i have to cut the arches out either thanks in advance rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 as title chaps what would i need to do to get some 33x12.50x15 under my 93rrc?it has been converted to coils all ready (yeah i know ill need bigger springs tho) but retains the front shox being mounted further forward in front of the spring (does this matter??) also dont mind if i have to cut the arches out either thanks in advance rob I had 32s on mine with a 2" suspension lift & minimal catching on the front arch but most people don't have any catching so don't know why. For 33s a 2" body lift along with a 2" suspension lift should do the trick without any problems. You really need to fit some extended arches though to cover the tread so you could just fit arches & 2" suspension without the body lift. The arches you will need are 75mm flexi from innovation4x4, they have just made them for people with the wider tyres as the 50mm that they do are not wide enough to cover the 12.5x15 tyres. I had a nightmare trying to get arches wide enough but innovation4x4 came up trumps click here Fitted them the other day, I will be posting up pics soon as I've fitted my light bar that I got for Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 cool i dont fancy doing a body lift tho would much rather do suspension and arches can any one recomend a spring kit that gives a geniune 2 inch lift? not just a i wish it was 2 inch lol and will wait for pics with baited breath rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young bobtail Rhys Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Or.........33's will fit fine with just the extended arches, say 50mm arches. This way you keep your COG as low as posible. The other option would be a 1 or 2" lift on the springs but defo not a body lift. I run 35" simex on a rrc with just 2 3/4" lift and 50mm arches. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelf Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 i have just 1" lift and cut the arches, but the tyres still catch badly on the rear when off road. just wish the new springs would turn up!..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 have found some bearmach blue springs for £120 a set and they are hd and + 40mm so what size rims would i need and what back spacing? rob ps like the light green one above B) thats the look im after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelf Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 just buy some synthetic paint 3lts and a faom roller........... and 2hrs of time......... job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 imeant the look of the wheels etc maybe give the paint scheme a miss tho chap lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticbadger Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 As has been said before, you shouldn't need a body lift to clear 33s, just plenty of cutting. The important thing to remember is suspension lift only helps while the truck is still. At full suspension compression the tyres will go up as far with a 2" lift as they will with no lift. If you get catching on the inner arches the best step is to fit +2" bump stops. A 33" tyre is only about 3" larger than standard, so only 1.5" larger radius, therefore in theory +2" bump stops should stop any rubbing other than due to the width of the tyres. With +2" bump stops and a 2" body lift my Discovery is clearing 37s. Wheels wise you will need between 8 and 10 inches wide. Something like a modular or 8 spoke with plenty of offset will fit best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 im not over concerned about off road clearance either as its purely for the looks so +2 inch bump stops will be going on it too i take it i would prob need to adjust my steering lock stops too ?? rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young bobtail Rhys Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 As for wheels, I would recommend 8x15 with anything between 3" and 3 3/4" backspacing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelf Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 and who sells +2" bump stops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 no idea but some 2 inch adapter plates should be easy enough to knock up rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young bobtail Rhys Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Paddocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 has any one tried the bearmach blue springs? look good value at £130 the set for +40mm and heavy duty would prob go with some pro comp shocks too but willing to listen to suggustions too (ps cant really run to more than £40 ish per shock so ome and the like are out rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young bobtail Rhys Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I was in the same boat as you. I thought I would get some rough country shocks for me gwyn lewis kit (I already had scrapiron springs) so I got them because at the time I couldn't afford old man emu. I don't like the rough country shocks as they are just too soft, there is not enough damping so they act like a pendulum. I will now purchase some old man emu at £345 for a set. I can't remember how much the rough countrys were, but basically they are simular to pro comp in every other way, around £160 to £180 for the set. This means old man emu if you buy them straight away are effectively £160 to £180 cheaper! Also, I have had the bearmach springs as well. These were used with de carbon dampers (which I would recommend to you at £40 to £45 each) they are a good damper for on and off road, however the springs were rubbish. Very stiff and off road were just a nightmare! I would not recommend the scorpion springs that I run either as they seem to get softer without sagging?! but if you use the correct damper like the delphi de carbon then they are ok. It may be worth waiting and saving to get the right stuff, I didn't and it will now cost me much more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I've got the blue springs, not sure what make they are maybe the bearmach then. I bought them second hand from ebay when I first got the Rangie but have always thought the ride off road was a little stiff, if you go at it a bit to hard it really knocks you about. I would like some softer springs myself but its something I've never looked into since I bought it, I look at using standard disco front springs I think but couldn't get my head round it so I just bought the ones I have. I'm also using pro comp+2 all round & they seem ok but I haven't tried anything else, the thing is if your on a budget you just have to buy what you can afford & if your not into it seriously, competing etc then I don't think you will see much difference. Its only when you have been doing it all for years or competing & tried all different set ups that you will find big differences between all the different makes etc..............................well that's my view any way, coming form someone who has only been into off roading for a couple of years. I think it all boils down to how much you want to throw at it & how much off road performance you want. Just buy what you can afford to get the performance & looks you want & I'm sure you will be happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 some good cases there chaps how about the britpart springs and gaz shocks? does any one have first hand experiance of these?(i have heard people say britpart stuff is pup but not many actually from first hand experience) im also thinking that some one said about not much lift is needed if the arches are cut out what about police spec (red and white??) spings on new oe shocks and cut the arches alot? will see very little off road action so firm is good for me too rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I have +2" britpart hd springs, and they have made my Rangie alot more cometant round the twisty stuff on the tarmac, and i didn't have any problems when i went off road at the begining of the month, infact they worked extremely well.....for a budget lift, i've heard using the standard rears on the front give you around +2" lift and then just get a pair of +2" standard springs,if you don't want the harshness of the H/D springs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 and how harsh are the hd springs chap?? rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 In my opinion they aren't too harsh......they a definately stiffer than the oe ones no question of a doubt, but they are not as harsh as say -40mm springs for a nova/corsa/escort ect if you know what i mean?...My wife has back problems, but she's been fine in it and thats off roading and hr hr and a half continious drive Cheers Shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 cool i think i will go for hd,s then as too soft makes the dog chuck up rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobajob Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 I'm just about to do similar lift to my RRC, and Ive got a set of 35's on 10x15 rims sitting waiting. I've been offered a set of +2" Scorpion Extreme springs and the Oram shocks etc to go with them, I reckon that the springs and a bit of arch trimming will be ok, if not i'll put a bit of body lift in too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtherotti Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 out of interest whats the 'normal' tyres size that is close to 33 inch tyre?? to go on a 16 inch rim rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelf Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 255-85-16 i think, but not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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