no im refering to the shaft that goes into the cv like a very short half shaft simmilar to the kam fusible stub shafts what i dont know is does any rover have the 8in shaft splined at both ends one end for cv other end for fwhub or do i have to fit defender hubs shafts cvs etc with the shaft part of the cv any imfo greatly appreciated as only been toying with rovers for two years after 35 in the motor trade and boy have i missed out thanks in advance