Young bobtail Rhys
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Thanks for all the offers.
I'm just checking the regulations for those 16 year olds that responded.
I'll be in contact with you all soon.
Thanks
Competed in the challenge today, and found that it had been set out for you lot with 35" simex, gigglepin 8274's and arb's front and rear! I was in a chipped 110 td5 with 265/75r16 bf goodrich muds, and for the first 3 sections he had forgot to put diiflock in
It was a very hilly, and complex course with lots of narrow tight turns, so predictable the 110 struggled, constantly sitting on its chassis. This made me work very hard running around with the waffles and ground anchor 
Unbelievably, we were doing really well, obviously behind the challenge trucks but infront of many others 
And we had the longest wheelbase there, doh! The engine more than makes up for it though 
It was all great fun until on the water section the winch decided to pack up. We don't know what was wrong with it but it was clicking so I think that the solenoids had got wet, but they were all bright? After this we had to retire. But really up for any other challenge where anyone requires a co-driver
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Hope you have a good one Rhys.......hope the sections test you all..... .....I might have been there last sunday but none of the sections were laid out by me
no, couldn't have been me
it was the rest of 'em cheers
Steveb
Ok, I see how it goes and tell you all Sunday night. And cheers Steve
Rhys
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Sounds like a good offer, i'd take him up on that, as good co-drivers are hard to find. I'm still looking
Thanks Adrian,
I would class myself as adequate
One thing that I should state that is I don't have a driving licence as I am only 16. A big 16 year old, 5ft 11" and 13st, I just hope that this does not affect what I can do 
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I'm looking for a co-driver again as my previous co-driver is still not up for it after his illness.
I'm looking to do some or all the HOWLIN' WOLF CHALLENGE (if there is any spaces left), if not may be some other events this year.
I've got a reasonable challenge spec 90 which I competed in last years AWDC clubman series.
PM me or post a reply here if your interested or have any questions.
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
I would be very interested in co-driving for you. I have some experience of co-driving and being in the driving seat as well, and have been doing the sport for around 5 years, but as yet I have not competed in an offical challenge. I am co-driving this Sunday at a local winch challenge for a friend. I am very willing to learn any extra pointers, and have picked up quite alot from the challenges that we go to watch. Also, don't know whether it is important to be physically fit but I do motocross as well as the 4x4 so I am capable of running up a hill with a ground anchor on my shoulder!
Many Thanks Rhys
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By the way where are these lanes that take 3hrs to do 200yds??
Thanks
Steve
Hi Steve,
I can't remember fully where abouts that particular lane was. I think it was around the Ely area. If you would like to know exactly, I can find out over the weekend and send you a pm. Also, to add to us being stuck for hours and making incredibly slow progress, heavens decided to open and not only were we now muddy, frustrated and shattered, we became absolutely soaked! Not a recommended greenlane, but if interested in finding where abouts its location is, tell me.
Rhys
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What you will need to do is wind the stop out on the other side from where it is rubbing. Completely normal as the tyres your running are slightly wider than the original 205 width.
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Surely if a lane is that bad, driving it will cause more damage? i.e. - you shouldn't be there?
That particular lane was quite long and only turned very bad towards the end, the only reason why it took us so long was our diffs were on the floor, so we winched ourselves through which took ages, the rest of it wasn't that bad, just a few muddy holes throwing the car to one side! The lane did not have any signs on it saying that it was closed at the start so we proceded. We always look for the signs because obviously if they are closed we do not drive them. Infact we do look after the lanes with both our driving and keeping the lane tidy, if our landy isn't going to get through an overgrown section without damage to the bodywork, then we have plenty of tools to make sure that it is passable, and other greenlaners can then enjoy the drive
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Certainly is, and he did say to me that the front is being shortened further still, some new rims are coming and some 39" boggers!!
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Does Uncle have any experience with 38A's, because there seem to be two questions here:
Which is preferred, and is it OK for laning. I'm assuming Laning means just that, Challenge events or 'Pay and Break' sites are something else again.
It is SteveG who had a 'prepped' 38A, but I don't think there is a lot of stuff available off the shelf, although I haven't heard of the specific kit you mention. You willl need to investigate tyres, and what style Uncle wants. The easy answer is that 16" wheels have more choice, but 18" wheels are more common, although the traditional evaluation is that the shallower sidewalls give a harder tarmac ride.
Consider renewing the suspension air bags, Arnott Gen 3 will enable an addtional inch or two to be engineered into the high setting. Rover Renovations i the address for any EAS bits.
If Uncle is laning we can assume it's low box work, and the diesel will be fine, although on the road it will be sluggish.
Whether you have a 'good' diesel conversion (Jeremy Fearn) or a sequential LPG (that doesn't backfire) the cost will be about £2k. LPG is probably cheaper than Diesel in terms of fuel cost per mile, but that conclusion needs double checking against current LPG prices. LPG tanks have to take up luggage space (or the spare wheel space, when the wheel takes up luggage space). You can't put decent LPG tanks underneath.
Don't assume all 38A's have Traction Control, because they don't.
Post '99 I think all do have 4 wheel ETC, but a '95 Diesel or 4.0 won't have any at all, while the 4.6 HSE had 2 wheel ETC at the rear.
The extra length isn't too much of a problem, because the car is raised on the Air Suspension (EAS).
The Width mainly means the bodywork gets more scratches than a Series, say, and the high gloss paint shows them strongly. Stone walls and stone gate pillars make the driver breath in a bit, but those may not be prevalent in Uncle's neck of the woods.
The weight is the biggest Green Lane problem. Think 2.5 tonnes with driver and kit. Fine on a firm surface, but always a negative on mud. What are the lanes like where Uncle goes off tarmac?
The electronics are no problem unless Uncle is determined to do the wilder Welsh rivers in Winter. Again, putting the suspension on High makes all the others look a bit sick.
That'll do for now, except if Uncle hasn't 38A experience I suggest that's the first hurdle to get over. Not everyone likes them.
Thank you for that in depth reply. We mainly do mild green laning around east anglia. Essex and Cambridgshire are most popular with us. Now the green lanes can vary from road chippings to lanes that are 200yds 3hrs, which would chllenge even the lockered simex 90! Most of us run around a 32" tall tyre, either 235/85r16 or 265/75r16. With that modification done to the air suspension that you suggested would, 255/85r16 tyres fit in side the arches, they are around 33.3" tall. Oh, and supose I should add they would be BF Goodrich M/T's. Our general offroading in terms of pay+play would be only mild and nothing too extreme as it would need to be driven home! Also we are not fond of water so 18"-2ft is really a max.
The air suspension would kept on as his current classic has it still on it and gets around remarkably well. I will mention to him to test drive one first as you recommended because as yet he is still to drive one.
The finally thing is that some of the greenlanes in our area are very tight, some trees are to be driven past with caution, so is gate posts, and obviously the overgrowth, which means as the P38 is wider, it will be down to the undercoat in no time, as all the other Landy's and Rangie's to drive these kinds of lanes are quite heavily stratched in places, even the narrower 90 and 110's.
Thanks Rhys
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Thank you very much, won't be done again, honest
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hi just to let you know i have a rrc bobtail with a 75mm spring lift and a 75mm body lift with some 37 1350 15 maxxis mudzillas and they do still rub on the foot wells but every where else is clear i think the tyres are supurb
Nice, what colour is it? I may have seen it, unless I was just dreaming, again!
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Click that, then click 'Moderating Team'.
Below the Administrators you will see all the Moderators, click the down arrow against each one until you see the one(s) that Moderate the Classified Forum.
There is a PM button on the same line, use that to PM the Moderator and ask him to move your post.
Cheers.
Thanks for that info. I have done that so fingers crossed it should be sorted soon.
Rhys
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What a plank!! I have put it in the wrong section, how do I move it? I put my other topic in the wrong section as well, muppet!! I never learn
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Just to point out it is not for me, my uncle is tempted but does not know how good they are. Can anybody help?
It would be replacing his 3.9 soft dash range rover se for the offroading, so would it be better or worst? The p38 is 4" wider, 108" wheelbase and 10" longer than a classic. Also, he is is two minds whether to look for the sluggish diesel and then have it chipped, or go for the 4.0/4.6 v8.
Bearing in mind, aftermarket parts are now becoming increasingly available, like the maxtraction suspension kit, ZU rims etc. But what about the vast amount of electronics, would they let him down?
Any views?
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Silverline I think is pushing them at the moment in all the mags
Yes, I have had a look at there stock but its more expensive than innovation4x4.
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As you all proberly know I am going to run the maxxis creepy crawler in a 35/12.5r16 and I will need 5 of them. Does anyone know where to get the best price for them? I have given innovation4x4 a call and they quoted me £135, which I thought was pretty good, but can I get them cheeper anywhere else, like the indoor 4x4 show in february, or do they not have tyres there as it is quite small?
Rhys
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Fairy snuff!
Yep, I can see totally what you were saying though, even though I have been driving for 8years its their site and whoever else at risk.
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Sorry to say, but this is very poor advice - driving under age unless the site expressly permits it (i.e.not just doesn't realise you are under age) is not a clever idea - you run the risk of getting into serious grief if you have an accident or heaven forbid hurt someone else whilst you are driving. You could also cause the site to loose its licence which would ruin it for the rest of us.
I know I sound like an old git (well I am compared to you lot!
) but that is the way it is.If you can't drive at a site then get stuck in as the co - driver. You can learn loads being outside the vehicle watching the driver mess things up.
You can also get a lot of satisfaction by thinking out a route through an obstical and then guiding (or "spotting") your driver through. Winch challenges as co-driver are also great opportunities to demonstrate your skills with rigging winches etc. One of the mot successful partnerships of recent years was a father & son team.Start off on the right foot please, or go find another hobby.
Yes I see what you are saying and agree, but the main site I drive at is private and the guy does know I am driving, I have only driven once at bures, so as you say it shan't be done again. Most of the time I am as co-driver and usually runnning around like a headless chicken and up to my knees in mud, great! Thanks for that
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hi
my name is josh im 16 but i cant find anywere were to drive my rangy bobtail
i was wondering were you take yours as i dont live to far away from haverhill???
watson
It has been to bures pit, wildtracks offroad centre have a small place, you can hire a place at badwell ash which is the other side of bury st edmunds, and I take it to venture 4x4 which I think is the best place. It is in a small village called three holes in wisbech, very freindly guy that owns it and likes it to be looked after. Sometimes you can be the only one there, but he will only let a max of ten cars in there. If you want the next time we go to venture 4x4 I can contact you to see if you can get your bob over there. There is usually a group of us (all landy's and rangie's obviously!) around 6-8. My bob won't be out for a while as quite a bit of work is being done, such as a bodylift, beadlock wheels and 35" tyres. btw I am actually at LT Thurlow, which is about 4 miles from Haverhill.
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is the scorpion extreme suspension any good
The scorpion kit is very good but if is quite a bit more expensive. I don't quite know how much, but it does require alot more work to fit it. Personally as I said before the gwyn lewis kit is amazing and works very well everywhere. It is soft so handling is down a little, however this allows it to flew much more keeping the wheels firmly on the floor. Also the quality of his work is fantastic. Give him a call because he will also give you loads of information and advice and refer to the other products with their draw backs, a very helpful and friendly guy. Here is a pic of mine with some 32" tyres on it, (35" are next up!) It was restricted by the ramps not being tall enough and trailing arms being standard, so it will drop down another 2" or so.
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Hi Dan,
Like you I am new to the forum, and I am only 16. I have a bobtailed rangie and can drive that at most places without any grumbles, unless they do specify a driving licence then I am passenger. Now this maybe that they don't have an age limit or because I am quite big for my age 5ft 11" and 13st so they don't ask. If I was you just drive until anyone says anything, unless obviously you require a full licence.
Good Luck
Rhys
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It is not an over the top kit but Gwyn Lewis has a very nice kit, I have some of it on my bobtail and I know a few other people with it and they are all very pleased with it. It is a complete bolt on kit so no majour modifications are needed. It is a high quality kit with mainly Old Man Emu. Its £1200, which for what it is I think is very good value for money. Have a look www.gwynlewis4x4.co.uk
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I had a set of sill guards on a RRc from them and they were really really good
They do seem to (or did) make some quality products, very pleased with the bumpers. I think my doors are a bit past having rock sliders put on to protect them, although the sills on this are very good and currently has an MOT cerificate.
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I have just googled it and nothing came up, so I can only asume that they are no longer about.
Very strong though, believe it or not we had somebody hit the back of that bumper. They had run into the back of someone behind us, then they hit us and it only stratched it! Not even down to the metal.
It was a very hilly, and complex course with lots of narrow tight turns, so predictable the 110 struggled, constantly sitting on its chassis. This made me work very hard running around with the waffles and ground anchor 
Unbelievably, we were doing really well, obviously behind the challenge trucks but infront of many others 
And we had the longest wheelbase there, doh! The engine more than makes up for it though 
It was all great fun until on the water section the winch decided to pack up. We don't know what was wrong with it but it was clicking so I think that the solenoids had got wet, but they were all bright? After this we had to retire. 
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