Green200tdi Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) TD5 defenders 02 onwards do the rear doors have electric windows? also are the front electric window switches illuminated at night? I’ve noticed switch is 6 pin yet on eBay they selling switch with only four wires (see photo) guessing up down live light? thank you. Edited September 22 by Green200tdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Rear doors are manual only. Aftermarket electric kits are available. Yes the switches are illuminated. Red/orange is the illumination feed. The motor is wired to run both ways, and the switch applies power in both polarities when pushed for up/down. Have a look at the 02-on wiring diagrams, it is a very simple system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 The wiring for Defender window switch connectors uses 5 out of the 6 terminals in the connector. Also, as the Defender switches switch the window motors directly (i.e. - no relays or ECUs in the circuit), the live feed, the outputs to the motor, and the switch's earth, are wired in 2.0mm² cable, with just the switch's illumination in 0.5mm² (Red/Orange) cable. The switches in your eBay picture are from a Discovery-2, which use the same switches and connectors as the Defender - however, in the discovery-2 the (front) window motors are controlled by the BCU, so only use 4 out of the 6 terminals. The switches are wired to switch BCU signal wires to earth on 0.5mm² cables - so, will have to be replaced with 2.0mm² cables to be used in a Defender (I can supply suitable new terminals, or new terminals pre crimped to 2.0mm² cables, if you want them?). Looking at that eBay listing, £50 is a bit steep for two old D2 switches and connectors (which will need a bit more spending to make them suitable for use in a Defender) I will PM you an alternative. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Retroanaconda said: Rear doors are manual only. Aftermarket electric kits are available. Yes the switches are illuminated. Red/orange is the illumination feed. The motor is wired to run both ways, and the switch applies power in both polarities when pushed for up/down. Have a look at the 02-on wiring diagrams, it is a very simple system. So it’s as I thought wire 1 live wire 2 down wire 3 up wire 4 light 💡 what I thought I’ll have a look bit later on if I need relays or anything probably a good idea.👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green200tdi Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 9 minutes ago, PaulMc said: The wiring for Defender window switch connectors uses 5 out of the 6 terminals in the connector. Also, as the Defender switches switch the window motors directly (i.e. - no relays or ECUs in the circuit), the live feed, the outputs to the motor, and the switch's earth, are wired in 2.0mm² cable, with just the switch's illumination in 0.5mm² (Red/Orange) cable. The switches in your eBay picture are from a Discovery-2, which use the same switches and connectors as the Defender - however, in the discovery-2 the (front) window motors are controlled by the BCU The switches are wired to switch BCU signal wires to earth on 0.5mm² cables - so, will have to be replaced with 2.0mm² cables to be used in a Defender (I can supply suitable new terminals, or new terminals pre crimped to 2.0mm² cables, if you want them?). Looking at that eBay listing, £50 is a bit steep for two old D2 switches and connectors (which will need a bit more spending to make them suitable for use in a Defender) I will PM you an alternative. . Thanks 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 3 minutes ago, Green200tdi said: So it’s as I thought wire 1 live wire 2 down wire 3 up wire 4 light 💡 what I thought I’ll have a look bit later on if I need relays or anything probably a good idea.👌 On a Defender it's - Pin 1 - Earth Pin 2 - Live feed Pin 3 - Window up/down Pin 4 - Window up/down Pin 5 - Not used Pin 6 - Illumination On a Discovery-2 it's - Pin 1 - Earth Pin 2 - Not used Pin 3 - Window up/down signal to BCU Pin 4 - Window up/down signal to BCU Pin 5 - Not used Pin 6 - Illumination . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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