Tris Cocks Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I am in the process of putting a lift kit on my 90, so far ive got some 2" lift springs, and have decided to go with the Gywn Lewis +2" front challenge shock turrets and his challenge rear shock mounts as well, im going to make my own spring retainers and the plan is to go with Procomp ES9000 shocks. Now to get the maximum amount of travel in theory i need to have the longest shock lengths possible, the gwyn lewis rear shock mounts states that they are designed for 11 inch travel shocks, as ive got plus 2" springs does this mean that i use 13 inch travel shocks? Also what length shocks do you reccomend using on the front? 11" to match the rears? Thanks for your help, its a bit of a headache trying to work this out. Tris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 From personal experience I would recommend that you go for the OME shocks that Gwyn suggests to use with his mounts. You won't regret it in the longterm. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 I have heard that OME shocks are the dogs danglies but i cant afford them and have heard good thing about the Pro Comp shocks. Anybody got any reccomendations about the length of the shocks? Tris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Yes save and get OME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 ...Now to get the maximum amount of travel in theory i need to have the longest shock lengths possible ... You need to match your shocks to the springs (rates and lengths). A badly set up system will be a horrible drive and will either roll like a boat with no keel or buck over the bumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 You need to match your shocks to the springs (rates and lengths). A badly set up system will be a horrible drive and will either roll like a boat with no keel or buck over the bumps All i know is that the springs are scorpion racing plus 2" springs. how do i match the springs and shocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 90 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Pro comp shocks will match scorpion springs well as they are both ****! Gwyns challenge turrets and rear shock mounts will only work properly with the 11" shocks, the main reason for the turrets and mounts being moved up is to allow for the extra length of shock when its fuly closed. Gwyns challenge kit with the 11" OME shocks really is an excellent setup. If your going for a +2" shock stick with std height mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 I know people some people dont agree with the ethics and morals of scorpion racing but i bought them purely on the price of the springs which were £60 and im working to a budget. But what is wrong with the Pro Comp shocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 90 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I know people some people dont agree with the ethics and morals of scorpion racing but i bought them purely on the price of the springs which were £60 and im working to a budget. But what is wrong with the Pro Comp shocks? Nothing to do with Morals or ethics to be honest, I wouldn't have commented if that was the complaint I had with them. I had Scorpion springs that sagged badly, the rates were nowhere near what they should have been and they just didn't work very well. They may not be a lot of money but they are still expensive for what you get, Especially when you end up replacing them with something else. Thats just my opinion tho so If ya happy with them fair enough. Please don't think its anything to do with any grudge against the company as I don't get involved in all that. As for the ES9000 I put them on my truck to replace DeCarbons and in comparison they were under damped and fade terribly after about an hour or so of hard off roading making truck feel horrible, Road sections between sites become scary. The ones on my challenge truck and on my road going disco both went to leak when not that old and shafts go rusty and push the chrome off in no time at all. I welded the eyes on the top of mine as people have trouble with them breaking off. I now have OME's on the challenge truck which are brilliant. Will be putting Decarbons or something similar back on the disco. I tried to buy cheaper suspension stuff when I first built the truck as did Kris. We both regretted it, Ending up buying the decent stuff in the end after waisting money first time round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 I know people some people dont agree with the ethics and morals of scorpion racing but i bought them purely on the price of the springs which were £60 and im working to a budget. But what is wrong with the Pro Comp shocks? ProComps are a perfectly good budget shock. On a similar budget the Rough Country's might have the edge (and you can get these from Gwyn or LLama4x4, and so can be sure of getting the right ones). OME would be my preference too but they are out of my budget You need 4 off 11" (sometimes refered to as +5") in pin pin in either ProComp or Rough Country to match your mounts. I hope the was only £60 for the complete set off four springs? for not much more but there is a huge range of genuine springs available that enables you to better match them to your needs and they keep their performance well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted May 10, 2008 Author Share Posted May 10, 2008 Thanks for all the advise, the springs were £60 for all four which i thought was a bargin at £15 per a corner. There are two main reasons that im going for budget/middle of the range equipment is that it enables me to get the right setup and as they are cheaper bits than the like of OME etc if i need to change a component its not going to break the bank, and then once im happy with what i have achieved i am able to upgrade as and when its required. Tris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Thanks for all the advise, the springs were £60 for all four which i thought was a bargin at £15 per a corner. There are two main reasons that im going for budget/middle of the range equipment is that it enables me to get the right setup and as they are cheaper bits than the like of OME etc if i need to change a component its not going to break the bank, and then once im happy with what i have achieved i am able to upgrade as and when its required. Tris Back to my original point. In the longterm you'll save money by buying the OME N73's in the first place. For me it wasn't longterm either, 4.5 months before my 'other' brand shocks seals started to fail. And as per Steve's point the alternative brands for Gwyn's mounts are under damped compared to the OME's. For the extra 110-120 pounds it's worth it to get the OME's in this case. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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