russpaul Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Help, I am after some reassurance. Noticed my Defender struggling to start a couple of weeks a go. Went to start after a week stood up starter moter only managing to click. Flat battery I thought, duly put battery on charge. Reconnected battery and attempted to start, still only cranked very slowly. Like the fool I am continued to crank, nothing. When I say nothing not quite true, this was followed by smoke and flames from the area of the starting motor. Expletives followed, and a mad panic for the hose pipe. Now I am not stupid enough to think that the starter motor is going to be anything but u/s. However is this the portent to something more serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I'd check the wiring very closely too, if the starter has combusted there's a fair chance you'll want to replace the main battery cable too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I set fire to my series 1 by just trying to fit an original heater switch!, same sort of thing fire blankets ect, electricary- a black art in my book- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 We had the same thing a few weeks ago on a mates 90, he had been a little over zealous going through a ford(several times) result was sparks and smoke from the starter a couple of days later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean f Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Also want to check the earth strap. If this is damaged, missing or corroded then there is a good chance the power for the starter was trying to return via the speedo cable or something similar. Make sure the engine to chassis strap and battery to Chassis strap are good, unbolt each end, clean the bit it is attached to to make sure it has a good connection. Quite often poor starting or a slow starter can be traced to this. Does kind of sound like the starter may be knackered though, never seen one develope and internal short and catch fire like that but it can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russpaul Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Many thanks all for wise words.Mind you it must have looked bloody funny me charging round like a demented Basil Fawlty trying to get water from a knarled up old garden hose. Now struggling to remove exhaust downpipe to begin to assess damage to offending article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russpaul Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Anyone got recommendations for new starter motor for 2oo tdi defender e.g. make and where from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyLee Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I got a spare one here , BUT its got a broken solenoid casing . You are welcome to use it to make one good one out of two ,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russpaul Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 many thanks for the offer, but have decided on brand new Bosch from Paddock, after removing charred one from engine bay this morning. Have scraped knuckles , and poor sunday temper to put me off job for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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