buckchote69 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 hey guys,i got a 1997 defender 90 i have a problem that most of you guys can probably help me with. a few days ago i went offroading wit a few buddy's. we found a few puddle about 2 feet deep a little less. so we drove through them a few times. as soon as i got out of the puddle for the last time befor heading home, the engine just quits on me. all the lights switches and anything electrical still worked. so i pop it in park and try to start it again. instead of starting, i jsut get a ticking noise. and once it makes the "ding dong "noise once it lets me crank. but it wont start., i checked everything from disconnected wires and waited for everything to dry no difference.i checked so see if i was getting spark, and i wasnt. i also pulled out all the spark plugs and cranked it to see if water got in, and there was nothing that squirted out.i had my truck towed back by my buddy and waited to see the next day. so as i try to start it today it does the same thing, but this time it wont crank , and now it wont let me take it out of park.(i had fully charged the battery the night before) . when i try to take the key out of the ignition it wont let me telling me that it thinks im not in park.(wich i am) the only way i got it in neutral before was by putting the diff in N. and now none of my dash lights come on. i am clueless on what i should check for. i was maybe thinking of finding a way to bypass the restriction on the transmission thing. but i dont knwo where to look to do so. i was hoping any of you guys could help me out. and suggestion would be appreciated THANx!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajlorton Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Sounds like the starter or the wiring & relay controling the starter. Have you checked those? Ahh, hang on. You say it does crank. Ignore me then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajlorton Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Oh, and welcome to the forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Welcome More info required.... I deduce from some bits of your post that it is probably a North American spec 4.0 litre V8 90? In which case a damp engine ECU may be the cause, I don't know where it is located on NAS 90's though as I've never seen one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckchote69 Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 hey thanx for all the fast replies and welcoming me. it turned out to be in fact the ECU, it was wet and it had to be taken apart to dry. the toher problem for not cranking once it was brought home was the fact that the crank sensor was out. luckily i didnt get any water in the intake. but i still have one more problem. now the alternator is making a SSSSSSS noise when its running. i think since the water was muddy some dirt and other stuff could have gotten in. is there a cheaper way to fix it, like maybe taking it apart and cleaning everything and lubing it up?. im suprised the dealer didnt charge me more than he did. i had to pay up 300 BUCKS. thanx adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 The noise is likely to be the alternator bearings. I don't know what bearings fit a V8 alternator (still assuming it is a NAS V8....) but the Tdi ones take an ordinary 6203 bearing, same as many motorbike wheel bearings, chances are the V8 may be the same, it is a lot cheaper than a new alternator if you are doing it yourself, but if you are paying somebody else to do it, there may not be much in it with the labour costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonb Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 V8 alternators tend to use different bearings to the tdi ones. Later V8 are 100a as standard where as tdi are 65a standard (on Defender), the bearings and design are competely different. Its a lot more difficult to take a 100a one apart as well, but not impossible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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