benthng Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 300 tdi engine knocking at idle with significant white smoke when cold start. Knock gets louder under load like switching A/con on or Auto Gear engaged. Tried everything i could think of but cant get rid of of the loud knock which goes from piston slap clack-clack-clack at idle to metallic thunk thunk thunk when A/con is switched on. I already check / did the following in chronoligical order but no solution: 1. Changed valve stem seals & adjusted valve lash 0.2mm - minimal adjusment required, no cure 2. Checked turbo impeller for oil and freeplay - no faults 3. Checked for rocker shaft / pedestal / loose bolt stud faults - no faults 4. Checked with stethescope sound like at top of block below head - not vacuum oir fule lift pump 5. Remove auxialary beltings - same knock, no joy 6. Retarded FIP timing as much as practicable - smokes, slightly less knock but real sluggish 6. Open T.case checked timing and various adjustments to cam and FIP - same knock, no cure 7. Checked Crankshaft pulley key way - its perfect 8. Ran engine without timing front cover - same knock, no faults found 8. Bosch specialist tested injectors, cant hold pressure - change 4 nozzles, no joy same knock 9. Specialist rebuilt pump - new plunger coz keyway damage and new supply pump, same knock Then the current biggie but still no cure, knocks even louder: 10. Engine out, top and bottom off - change piston no.4 (old injury with broken valve stem... another long story) - changed con rod no.1 coz piston height unecven front higher than back by 0.3mm - inspected crankshaft / cam shaft in situ - bearing / lobe surfaces looks good - inspected auto gear flex plate - not broken looks serviceable - Replaced all little end, big end and main bearings (bearings looks good but small end loose) - rechecked crankshaft thrust bearing - still std size coz oversize cant fit in at all - replaced 1 bent pus rod and 1 damaged tappet slide - other all ok - fitted 1.4mm elring head gasket (all pistons below 0.6mm and its got a new cyl head) Retarded FIP timing but still knocking miuch louder than my 23 year old 200 tdi, but less smoke though. Looking back I should have remove the crankshaft, cam shaft and oil pump but what else should I do other than to pull the motor out again. Sorry for long post but I really need your collective expert advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthng Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Listened carefully again last nite (after rebuilt); the thunk thunk thunk mid block noise seemed to have quietened down but the valve train / upper cyl noise very loud and harsh (much louder than before rebuilt) .... will recheck valve lash / recheck rocker & pushrod ops / recheck timing and report back. ps: cyl bores at last rebuilt looks visually ok, crosshatching still visible, no pronounced lip at cyl top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthng Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Sorted out, it was just a timing issue. Cam was 1 tooth retarded and fuel pump was 1 1/2 tooth advanced. Thereafter Fine tuning of fuel pump pulley. Sorry about the false alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulN Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Your competancy is way beyond my 'league' so I can't help but have been reading with interest. Glad you are sorted - though what a trial. At least you now know what is defo okay!! My question would be was it through a slip up in timing belt fitment or how did it happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthng Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 Yep root cause was timing problem and a series of mishaps.. Started with aggressive tuning of fuel injection pump and turbo boost 22 psi.. Happy disco .. Over torque rocker stud led to loose pedestal and a broken rocker shaft .. Decided to overhaul cyl head with new valve rods and springs etc also new rings crank and big end bearings real happy disco.. Spring no. 3 broke... Costly repair .. Not so happy.. Then slipped belt and broke spring no. 4 broke.. Now all fixed but starter solenoid has gone bad. It's tough loving a LR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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