redrodant
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As long as there is not a punch up that bloody tree again we'll be fine, if there is we'll leave that till last!
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I think the verticality of the B hoop is to ensure it is quite close to the driver's head as this is the one thing it really needs to protect. IIRC there is something in the book of lies requiring it to be a certain maximum distance from the driver's head.
Im sure there is a minimum / maximum angle at wich the rear stays meet the chassis, and the top of the main hoop, I think a MSA scrutaneer "years ago" told me the main hoop can be 10 degrease off vertical, bit only leaning backwards only!
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im not on the list and sent in my form ages ago. ah well, sent it again (with some pennies this time) so hopefully that will reach you!!!!Pete
Unlike me, the entry bookings, Paperwork side is supa efficeint!!! so somethink £ucked up, try a email, or a phonecall and a promis to follow it up with a entry &££££
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nice dates going to sort entry out before christmas (once the wife has told me which I can do)
Best hurry over half the places have gone
entry list -
Wha?
All 3 clubs over the past few years, organiseed,Run, and invited each other to Winch challenge events,we all use the same sites,Are MSA affiliated (restrained? lol) have the same type of vehicles entering, so to make life a little better for Organisers / competitors, we have got together and Organised some cool events, and a place to commonly share info, pics, vids,ect. simples!!
"""disclamer"""
In association with the twisted minds that enjoy
Nightmare challenge
LRS Challenge
Muskoka
MOC Challenge
ect
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Combining our 3 respective midlands "ish" based clubs best sites, so we can have some more wincheee fun
Or / more below
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can you update the website with your new dates? or I can't see them????
13 march
1st may
5th June
10th july
4th sept
2nd Oct
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First question is how's the lad that ended up totally wet through when he rolled in the water ??
Good do we enjoyed it although we didn't have a clue where we were or where we were going, but's thats normal for us two,
Loads of Marshalls around, and they didn't interfere which was good, it's hard enough in the dark anyway.
We couuldn't stay for the scores because I turned my trailer around ready to load and ended blocking the exit, so when the lad was taken to hospital had to shift out of the way smartish, which meant going up the long lane, and once we got the Nissan moving up the frozen hill we kept it going.
Anyway first Challenge with rhe MOR and thorougly enjoyed it, everbody seemed friendly,so thanks to all involved.
Where and when will the scores be posted.??
Chris:)
Adam "hyperthermia! burman is ok
He managed to roll his bro's truck drivers side down into 3ft of frozen water 
, Sunday night he was hogging the family sofa infront of the fire . Scores are posted on MOC web, and there on facebook "if u do it" along with loads of pics.Glad u had a good time, it was fun watching
The marchells are there to "officually " stop cheeting and for safty,but "unoficially" to watch the fun and take pics. I think everyone had a good time. Adam wanted to know when the next one was which says sommet really -
ask essom what happened to me at mow cop last year. lol I almost passed out lol
Best Quote of the night "have u seen my winch man????"
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There are a few spaces left for winched vehicles if anyone wants to come play, plz remember u have to have a MSA compertition licence, "and bring it with u" Entry booking details are on the first post.Promo vid and info
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Someone better get this on film.
Well my 11yr old daughter won a brilliant camera recently "joint first LRS Challenge Marchel, and is itching to use it, and some of the lrs bitches won cameras too, so u never know!!! There is also 22 marchells and family / friends signrd up, so im sure someone will have some good pics somewhere, lets hope thay appear on the net!
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but if you play by there rules they ought to if not its a waste of time and money. know you will get some answers dave
IN the Autumn 2010 "Mototsport Now" mag" which is Printed by the MSA, there are some NEW revised rules for 2011.
Which are a lot better
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Hope people dont get radiation poisoning off them, dont forget your in the flight path at that site the air ports only 5 mins up the road
I wondered what the picture of a fan was doing on the box
, Ebay listing just said "Glowing Rods" still nevermind a little radiation never hert anyone . I don't intend to place them all in 2 parallel lines 
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so I have to hold on tight?
Don't I get my own bouy?
Word on the street is he leaving the Plasma and strops at home for this one
Reverting back to steel cable and a chain
Maybe u could "rent" a bouy
Ps
The Glowing markers arrived fri, tested a few last night, "lit up my house all bloody night in a scooby doo scary house way
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Have u got one to attach to barmy
we would'nt want to loose him -
Gutted.
Tow vehicle blew a head gasket with 160 miles to go this morning, so had no choice but not make the event.
Hope it was really horrible event, rained all day, the punches were all too hard and everyone broke fan belts.
We all missed u
Sorry u missed a corker
Thanks for the wake up text,
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Sorry but I think you need to read the regs a little more closely.
Where does it say MSA Spec cages?
Where does it say all winching operations to be marshalled?
Where does it say no traybacks or challenge wings?
Please quote me sections and paragraphs
I asked direct questions about these regs, trying to clarify them a bit, all questions & answers fron MSA are here.
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I've read the exact wording and it's still not a problem. I think your definition of a circuit is not correct.
From a dictionary for an Electrical circuit
The complete path of an electric current, including the generating apparatus, intervening resistors, or capacitors.
A + cable to the high power side of the solenoid does not make a circuit, a circuit is made only when there is a return path through the motor to the earth of the battery.
The lower current side of the solenoid does have to go through the main isolator.
As for the roll cage I would look at the AWDC regs not the MSA page.
"From January 2011 all vehicles competing in All Wheel Drive Club challenge events will be required to have a minimum of a rear roll hoop with backstays and an X reinforcement within the hoop."
"all roll bars and roll cages should be built to MSA specifications ..."
Which is different to the MSA spec and says "should" not "must".
Also part a (iv) of AWDC regs. "All space frame vehicles must have a full cage as part of their overall construction".
(which is in the MSA regs as well)
The MSA (2010) say that the roll cage MUST be welded and integral to the design for space frames.
So any thing not roll cage is part of the space frame and actually must be attached to the roll cage.
So again I don't see a problem.
But note I'm not an MSA scruntineer.
The MSA are the awdc insurers, so the AWDC have to comply with the MSA Regs just like every other MSA Affiliated club.
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Gordon
have a look at the proposed changes for youself in motorsports now that will have been sent to all licence holders Summer 2010 issue page 38.
If you want any help Gordon please get in touch I will point you in the right direction.
Or email MR Ian Davis "Cross country committie man" @ MSA, I did / have been for last 3 months, Regs questions & spacific Answers
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to save reading the 36 page link
does anyone know the exact (changes) that will be in place next year?
All winching operations to be marchelled
MSA Speck cages
Rated winches and equilalent winch / recovery equipment
Mesh and goggles if mo screen, or open rear cab.
Traybacks / challenge wings welded to cage a no no.
Spill kits on sections & in trucks.
and a few other little changes.
Straight from mr Ian Davis "MSA Cross country committie" bloke.
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got the red marker bouy covered, work with boats :-)
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i can't remember my login but 6 HW, 5 to count gets my vote. run like this years with long routes and pairs of punches.
Im all a poll on when / what events, but don't overlook the MSA regs for 2011. Thay may / will have serious changes to how events look / run.
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Make sure you keep an eye on Dan we dont want him ending up in the River Trent that runs along the edge of the site
OMG forgot about that
, best get a location Boye to tie to his motor, so we can fish him out, 20ft of rope long enough
im not on the list and sent in my form ages ago. ah well, sent it again (with some pennies this time) so hopefully that will reach you!!!!
, Sunday night he was hogging the family sofa infront of the fire 
, Ebay listing just said "Glowing Rods" still nevermind a little radiation never hert anyone 
so hopefully we wont get any body crashing the party 
2011 Challenges Joint Venture
in Competing in Land Rovers
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First Challenge of 2011
Little Whitly, Sun 9th Jan, hopefully with new ground to play on 