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My mates bin refused a licence by the MSA, on the grounds or being DANISH, bin in england over 20 years,has a valid british drivers licence end to all intense and perposes is as english as english can be, except his use of bad language and accent.

I had a panda once, liked it a lot, great in the smow,very adgile and would outmanover a suzi, BUT, no low range, diff front breaks if asked to do anything strenuous, tiney cvs, no power or torque, make a better quad or comper than challenge truck

I am booked into one of the MSA training days soon, have been for ages, may be plesently supprised

I think "enjoy it whilst we can and if / when we have to change something to keep us going through the MSA'S randomly mooving hoop of confushion we;ll see if its worth going elsewhere. Thanks for the info about the championship, this is new news to me, as the MSA man has not even mentioned anything about it. Typical MSA it seems

The LRS Has only "4" Places left!

Opp' what shafts and cv do u run?

How did they fall off Ive never seen an axle come off completly, or did u have to remove it to move it? Good luck anyway!!!

We have repetidly asked for guidance from the MSA over the SR's for the lrs "3 times" over the last 2 years. And at least twice regarding the MOC Challenge's that the lrs is based on...So it should be a clubman's licence event...Its's down on the sr's as a clubman event.

Yes it does cost more but at least he new he had to have one!

Be careful when you fill in the online form, it has a habit of changing your inputted details, and the best bit is it starts on 1 Jan 2010. so you are paying for a month you didn't know you needed it, and didn't use it, or even was applied for. It's like a politicians expense claim, "ALL b*LL*X!!!!!" TRY CLAIMING BACK UR £1.91 for Jan 2010

THE LRS is run in accordance with MSA regulations that we specificly cheched out with the MSA orricials in 2008 and again in 2009, and before the sr's were submitted for the 2010 series. So in total that is 3 times for the LRS and twice for the MOC CHALLENGES that were run in the preceeding years... WE DID OUR BEST TO GET IT RIGHT!!!!

The MSA were asked to clarify in 2008n exactly who and how many invited clubs could be invited, and the reply was The amount we have. We also checked when we submitted the 2009 |sr's and again for the 2010 sr's Is this another example of the MSA not knowing there own rules!!!

Taken from devon 4x4 forum......... have contacted Ian Davis at the MSA today and can confirm that the MSA intend to push the requirement for competition licences foreward. Although not happy with the outcome we are happy to stand corrected The MSA has drafted a Press Release clarifying the requirement for release tomorrow. That will go to all registered clubs and will be on the News section of the MSA website. I have to say i am a little shocked at this determination to press foreward with this even after the horse has clearly bolted and I am also concerned over how this will potentially affect the new relationship between our sport and the MSA. I am currently awaiting a responce from our comittee and feel it highly likely we will be making an official complaint about the way this has been both handled and pushed foreward at a time when we should be building bridges and working together not driving wedges between us all.

Just £23 and the lowest one is urs,same for a comp licence i think but more money

This is the reason i didnt go into Polatics.....I like to know what is happening and have a straight clear answer, eg is it raining (yes or no)(do i need a coat). Ask the MSA and get drizzel, light rain, showers due, damp fog, heavy mist, ect ect ect! I just want to go and get my 4x4 stuck and then recover it, and then get stuck again!

Theres a bit on the MOC forum as well...

Are u certain that is correct, sounds to simple to be true. Queary "if a Person has a suspended licence, and fills out a form on the day, compeats, goes home ect, he has competed when suspended".Hope u right though!!

I don't think it's the £23 licence that is getting people upset, its the fact that its been inforce for a month and no one knew about it, untill somebody (in the msa)finally noticed that it was missing from a resubmitted SR's application late in the week just gone.. God nows how many applications went through there hands before they moticed. The LRS challenge even asked the MSA to check there SR's for 2010 to make sure that the changes that were being preposed were ok..No mention of this "small" change!!!! And no mention of it in any of there official 1/4 ly literature eather, only a quickly withdrawn statemant saying that MSA scrutaneers would be requred from 1st jan 2010.... I think that comfidance/ credability is being questioned by the driving comunity. Arse/Elbo ect!

Championship Contenders are aware of the rule change and its implications to competitors. MSA Rule N.24.2. Drivers at events other than Competitive Safaris, Timed Trials, Team Recovery, Point to Point, Challenge Events and Hill Rallies up to and including Clubmen Status, must produce a valid Club Membership Card. MSA Rule N.24.2.1. At events of National B status and above and all Competitive Safaris, Timed Trials, Team Recovery, Point to Point, (Challenge Events) and Junior Trials, drivers must produce a Competition Licence [as detailed in Section H], and Passengers must produce a valid club membership card. Mr Ian Davis stated that the words ‘Challenge Events’, shown in brackets above, had been omitted in the original ruling but will be corrected and be adhered to from the 1st of January 2010.

Maybe on monday when the MSA RETURN TO WORK and have a little look in there IN BOX and answer the Phone they may act!!i hope they arn't of a fragile disposation!!!!!!!

As from 1st Jan 2010 the MSA have recognised challenge events, i wonder what the MSA will impose next, msa scrutaneer's???, blue book speck rollcages,helmets ect??????? time will tell!

GOOD QUESTION all the clubs sr's have been approved without there (MSA licence) bits being in them, and now all of a sudden they all have to be amended?????? i feel sorry for any club "EG MIDWEST" who have a challenge booked for the 6th, as it is a 10 day turnaround for online licences and 15 for post, so at best it will be the following wed before most people can enter!!!!!Msa paperwork has to be sent to them within a time limit and now will have to include ALL licence Numbers. Ps hows the v8, Has Megasquit got over its flu

I dont think he's ever suffered from a bout of shyness, or tact! just a cold!!! ! Nice to have u back Criss, would'nt be the same with out u!

Nice to see ur over the flue mate and back on parr