Troll Hunter

Before any wino goes blind - most of us are already deranged - let's be clear about the various alcohols that are being discussed here. Methanol is methyl alcohol, which is highly poisonous. Amongst other effects, it does make you blind, but it also kills a large number of people each year. Ethanol is ethyl alcohol, which is what we all like to drink, and only sends us temporarily blind and insane if we drink too much. This is produced by fermentation of sugar or starch, or by chemical means, starting from crude oil, and is what is in beer, cider, wine, and Gin, Vodka, etc. The non-matured spirits are frequently made from "petro-chemical" ethanol, with necessary flavorings and diluted with water. Ready to drink immediately!!! Meths, or methylated spirit, is methyl alcohol with a colouring and smelly additive to prevent people trying to drink it. Denatured alcohol is ethanol based, but rendered non-potable by the addition of smelly additives and methanol, so that it can be sold in UK without being liable to alcohol tax, as for Gin, etc. For Material Safety Data Sheets for methyl alcohol, caustic soda and caustic potash follow the links below. Please note that if you are using methanol or ethanol, the vapours in air are toxic - yes, you can get pi**ed by inhaling them - and VERY explosive. Also, the liquid should not be allowed in contact with Sodium Hydroxide (caustic soda) or Potassium Hydroxide ( caustic potash). These are all VERY DANGEROUS CHEMICALS. http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/ME/methyl_alcohol.html http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/SO/sodium_hydroxide.html http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/PO/potassium_hydroxide.html Having been a right kill-joy, I'm now looking forward to reading your posts on your successes, or otherwise, in making and using bio-diesel. MikeRowen

The link below shows another 2002 style mod, and the prices quoted are far more realistic. MikeRowen http://www.reedx.net/landrover/mods/2002dash/index.htm