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    Making noise and mess with off highway toys, trucks and machines.
    Making noise with fiddle, flute and whistle.
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  1. Given the price structure and crossover, what's the general consensus on the pretender resale values and depreciation compared to its older brothers? It does have a certain type of practicality but no more so than anything else in the range by the time they're all second hand but without the 'prestige' or toys/ luxury..There's no longer any arguments about it being any simpler to maintain or being any more reliable given that so many parts are used across the range. Who are the demographic it will appeal to on the second hand market? Do we expect it to be half of list price after three years similar to other 'premium' brands or will it buck the trend like defenders did?
  2. I think you're confusing the silencer with the exhaust pipe under the rear subframe that I was referring to.. It hangs lower than any other point on the whole car, it's a part that when you drive in ruts will be the first point of contact, even an unmade road with a high crown and potholes would be enough to cause substantial damage. You're incorrect about the fuel tank on older products being more vulnerable than the exhaust on this. I think you've maybe not yet had the chance to have a good crawl around one, (not under it obviously because there simply isn't room to even squeeze an arm, let alone get a head underneath it). Why are we even having this conversation about whether a vehicle with a defender badge can drive on mildly bumpy roads without damaging its ridiculously routed exhaust? It shows how much of a sham and a disappointment it's turned out to be.
  3. I don't understand you, what cars have the fuel tank underneath the rear subframe 6" off the ground? Crushing the soft and vulnerable low hanging exhaust will not only immobilise the vehicle but also result in regular and expensive repair bills and unnecessary downtime.
  4. Is there a school of thought amongst off road vehicle designers that placing the unprotected exhaust as the lowest point of an already low vehicle will somehow add to the capabilities in extremis? Clearly I'm missing something. Even those brand new tyres look bald, everything about this new car just oozes ostentatiousness. There's very little practical about it. Look at the door shut line at the waist line of the second door, what's going on there? Without any protective cappings, those sharp rear corners will surely be scratched and chipped in no time? One of the few things I do like are the rear towing eyes, Why didn't they have them on the front too like the DC100 it's based on? It would be easy to have them comply with pedestrian safety regulations. Just looking at the complexity of this thing shows how impractical it is. I wonder what the component count of this is compared to a series one or even a defender?
  5. Great screengrab! My thoughts on it: The two piece antiroll bar is interesting, I wonder if there's a disconnect not shown in the view? We'd like that. The placement of the steering damper is awful, hanging well below the axle centreline but interesting geometry how it connects directly from the axle housing to the track rod, presumably to eliminate death wobble? I don't like that we can't see pinch bolts or clamps on the track rod ends so wonder if the track rod ends are replaceable or crimped on as part of the track rod? They're very difficult to adjust when they get a bend in them, in fact, bent track rods like that are a pain in the ass to set the tracking on at the best of times, let alone in field conditions when you've just hit something. The LH track rod looks like an expensive to repair /replace part. I guess that the low placement of the nice large looking P38esq steering box implies quite a lot of vertical wheel travel could be possible and with very little bump steer from the long links. The Panhard rod is quite low, as will be the roll centre. Interesting choice as the journalists are surely going to criticise the resulting roll in fast cornering. I like the steering guard mountings that might also serve as winch mounts but the long rear ones look a bit weedy. No substantial front crossmember has been visible in any of the renderings thus far, that's a worry. large 4 bolt king pins and large robust looking swivels seem promising, maybe, just maybe they actually put some decent sized CV's in there? Interesting that the publicly released footage of the steering on a 'UK built' vehicle is LHD. I think they shouldn't push the UK angle anyway, I bet more people will buy it if they think it's German. Using the 6 stud Japanese wheel pattern makes so much sense. The Land Rover one is too far gone now to be useful to anyone. I think the parallel 4 link is a bold choice, fair play to them. Large rubber bushes there should be very durable and give decent flex compared to radius arms. Looks like the brakes go over the hub flange, yay for an easy maintenance component at last. I wonder if it's unit hubs and bearings (boo).
  6. I thought it was an international forum. We ought to be embarrassed at the sh!tty welcome the guy got for his first post. Welcome to the forum! Any progress since you posted? I should imagine that the 202 isn't very expensive and for the sake of a few hours putting it in would be the most guaranteed way of knowing it's going to run well and allows you to have a look at the clutch and flywheel and possibly change the oil seal on the input shaft. I ran a 202 in a 109 in New Zealand for a few years and had heard from the garage I worked at that they were prone to throwing rods, I couldn't get it to throw a rod despite trying. Compared to a land rover engine, the 202 pulled significantly better and used less fuel doing so. Something else to consider is that neither the 186 or 202 is suitable for unleaded petrol. It could be that your 186 has damaged valve seats and guides and that new stem seals just mask the problem for a while.
  7. So an R380 would be stronger in this scenario. No, not at all, an R380 wouldn't last at all behind an Isuzu or any large 4 cylinder engine. The torque spikes and torsional vibration would have it destroyed fairly quickly. Many classic Range Rovers were fitted with Chevrolet V8's, Perkins 4 and 6 cylinder engines back in the day with no ill effects to the gearbox. You only have to take them apart to see the huge difference in the size of the components, The R380 is just an updated LT77, the name says it all, 77mm between main shaft and layshaft vs 95mm. Not only are the gears much larger, they're wider too and in a stiffer housing. They have their weaknesses too as described above but none of that stoped me putting an LQ4 Chev V8 in front of one.
  8. "Tip a Discovery onto two diametrically opposed wheels in a transition and it'll creak under structural duress" Total garbage, they don't make a sound, don't twist, doors open and close fine, exactly as they do on every car made this millennium in the same situation. Marketing nonsense. "half-a-metre of suspension articulation" That's actually not much and it's lies and marketing anyway pulled from the disco 5 literature. It clearly doesn't display anything like this amount in real life for reasons well discussed in previous pages in this topic. With the exception of the total lack of versatility of the new defender, the fact that the wheels almost don't move at all is one of the most un-defender like qualities it possesses. Roll on the independent reviews!!
  9. There's no point at all listening to a review from someone who hasn't driven off road before, let alone hasn't done it every day for a living, nor is a user utility vehicles or is even familiar with the old defender. Every single review so far I've seen is basically part of the JLR Namibia marketing exercise. I want to see an American or Australian review, they don't usually sugar coat things. Is there any new footage from the American trip now been released? Anybody who doesn't mention the savage lurching from wheel to wheel on fairly benign terrain isn't doing a review, they're part of the advertising campaign.
  10. Yes, that's exactly who I was thinking of. Cheers.
  11. Has there been even one review yet by someone who has at least driven off road before and doesn't think off road means rally driving? Journalists are the very worst people to review what a Defender should be anyway. Who's that South African Dude who actually knows what he's talking about? He might not be a 'proper' journalist though... He generally gives unbiased and fair reviews, usually from an overlanding perspective.
  12. About time we heard an update and had a defender replacement to look forwards to:
  13. Very interesting, the similarities are endless. I thought this recent interview with Gerry McGovern was quite interesting too. I think most things he's done for land rover have been great (except the rear of the Disco 5), the Evoque design is amazing and his influence on the shape in everything current is clear to see. I just think he was the totally wrong man to lead the defender project and that it should have been lead by an engineer and that form should have been allowed to follow function as far as regulations would have allowed, then he should have got his turn. https://gearpatrol.com/2020/03/09/land-rover-design-boss/
  14. Are you discussing the preparation of soup or something? I can't see any other references to stock, please do stay on topic and try harder to actually read the posts you respond to. This makes no sense at all, if you have a video of your daily driver moving across terrain that defenders couldn't then you definitely get bragging rights but that still doesn't make defenders sh*te off road, it just means your ego wants a massage.
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