jad Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Hi I wanted to get some yellow flag terminals for the wiring on my heated windscreen but cannot find them anywhere! I can find red and blue ones but not for the life of me yellow ones.... Does anyone know of a supplier? Thanks Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 They're sometimes called "elbow" instead of "flag" so a search on that may throw something up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do the job once, do it properly Vehicle Wiring Products sell the good Lucar one and the covers. I used ordianry Lucar connectors for my windscreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 the lucas one? I only see standard spades terminals from them which we have already. But i wanted flags to keep the tabs off the windscreen straight. It is being done properly..... by my dad, he has done a lot of wiring in his life. Im not so confident with it, so he comes in handy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 If by Flag you mean the ones where you can piggyback another terminal onto the back of it, then CPC have them in their special offers at the moment. Just bought a bag as they were very cheap. Watch out for postage though - might be more than the terminals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 no i meant these..... http://cgi.ebay.com/50-pc-YELLOW-12-10-GAUGE-FLAG-TERMINALS-WIRE-CONNECTORS-/350393810569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5195193e89#ht_3313wt_999 and it looks like I have found some! long way away though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Unless you buy the proper crimping tool. Not the five pound one at least the thirty pound one you can't cripm those terminals correctlt Get the proper ones like this http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/terminalsnonins/photo/00513.jpg If you take your time you will find the sheaths as well. Which relays are you using ? Remember to do the windscree you must only be able to switch it on with the engine running. That means very complicated wiring. Wiring through ingnition is not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 those ones are not big enough for the wiring, hence the search for yellow ones. the relays were from vehicle wiring products. My dad will have done the wiring properly Does anyone know what type of crimping tool you need for these ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpants Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) The right sort of tool for flags, is something like this; The right tool When you have got back up off the floor, terminals like: Yellow Flags Can be crimped in a normal insulated crimp tool as they have the barrel out of the side. What wire size is it you need to crimp- the uninsulated flags are available in larger sizes than those listed in VWP; Large Flags You can request samples from the tyco website Edited March 31, 2011 by Superpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 What sort of heated windscreen do you have ? I wasn't aware that any windscreen needed a 9.3mm [3/8" terminal]. All mine has is the normal6.3mm [1/4"] terminals. I used 28/ 0.30mm cable The Windscreen is only heated at 12 minutes a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 The right sort of tool for flags, is something like this; The right tool :blink: erm yeah not gonna happen..... When you have got back up off the floor, terminals like: Yellow Flags Can be crimped in a normal insulated crimp tool as they have the barrel out of the side. How did you find these??? If they can be done with the normal crimp tool then they have got to be a winner! What wire size is it you need to crimp- the uninsulated flags are available in larger sizes than those listed in VWP; Large Flags You can request samples from the tyco website good idea! What sort of heated windscreen do you have ? I wasn't aware that any windscreen needed a 9.3mm [3/8" terminal]. All mine has is the normal6.3mm [1/4"] terminals. I used 28/ 0.30mm cable The Windscreen is only heated at 12 minutes a time. I have the heated windscreen with 2 live tabs on the outside and earth in the middle (Defender) and all the links to the terminals have been for 6.3mm....... you cannot have used 0.3mm cable that is way too small would fry in seconds surely? I think my timer relay is for 10 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I've use 28/012" cable. Or in modern terms for your benefit 28/0.30 cable. Plenty able to cope. I used 44/0.30 for the earth. That easily fitted the 1/4" terminals. Well it's been in ove a year now. Well used. No evidence of volt drop or frying I take it you've rewired your headlights with that cable as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpants Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 How did you find these??? If they can be done with the normal crimp tool then they have got to be a winner! Whilst they might not be classed as conventional automotive suppliers, Both Farnell and RS carry a lot of very useful parts. I work in automotive electrical design and find if I only want a small quantity of parts they are often a good place to start looking. Both are also expanding their ranges of specific automotive connectors such as econoseals. The prices aren't necessairly keen, but with no minimum order(if you have an account), free next day delivery & online ordering they get used an awful lot. Most of the retail automotive electrical suppliers are buying most of their stock (Rash generalisation of course) of these sorts of parts from one of three main trade suppliers. We have the catalogues for these at work, so if I can't find the part in one of these then it's time to look elsewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Sorry mike I am with you now. took a little while to catch up.... Ill check to see if the smaller connections will fit at all. the same size cable has been used for earth and 12v. which i think may be the 44/0.3. If we cant get them on then I may reduce the size of the live cable. I havent touched the headlight cabling. still the original, havent had a problem with them though, they seam plenty bright enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 PM me your addy and I'll see what I've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range Rover Blues Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Remember to do the windscree you must only be able to switch it on with the engine running. That means very complicated wiring. Wiring through ingnition is not good enough. It's common to use the oil pressure switch or the alternator to drive an ignition relay. Also you can fit a voltage sensitive relay, though I find these can trip in and out at idle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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