qball Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi, My TD5 90 has failed to start up. Able to crank, there is firing but it does not start up. I plug in the Hawkeye. Error message Fault: 3183 Injector 1 Peak Charge Long Logged This goes for injector 2 to 5. Fault: 3191 Injector 1 Peak Charge Short Logged This goes for injector 2 to 5 also. Could anyone advice what's the cause and where is the fault from? I am still able to crank the engine but it does not start. Battery is old but still good. Regards Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inaine Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 try the purging procedure, ign on push throttle peddle down to floor 5 times, MIL light will flash, 30 sec purge will start with a boost / jump pack on the battery check the ecu harness etc check the earth from loom to gearbo and chassis check the oi to see if theres diesel in there is the car imobilsed, whats the status of the red light on the speedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I thought you could not interogate the ECU on a TD5? If you can what do I need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qball Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 I thought you could not interogate the ECU on a TD5? If you can what do I need? Hi.. I am using a Hawkeye OBD kit. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I thought you could not interogate the ECU on a TD5? If you can what do I need? Nanocom, Hawkeye, Rovacom, Testbook.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qball Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 try the purging procedure, ign on push throttle peddle down to floor 5 times, MIL light will flash, 30 sec purge will start with a boost / jump pack on the battery check the ecu harness etc check the earth from loom to gearbo and chassis check the oi to see if theres diesel in there is the car imobilsed, whats the status of the red light on the speedo Hi, THanks for the advice. Tried the purging. Let the punp run with throttle fully depressed. For your method I am not familiar. Where is the MIL light? As for the rig being immbolised, can it still crank? If is immbolised I need the EKA( the codes for the number of turns using the key)? regards Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&S Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I think the faults listed are because it isn't firing, not the reason that it isn't firing. The TD5 is sensitive to battery voltage so a jump start is a good idea if you think your battery may be a bit low. It'll still turn over but won't fire unless it gets something above 12v. Saying that, your battery will most likely be dead now anyway if you've been trying to start it a few times Inaine has covered most things to check. Also check the fuel cut-off switch (on the bulkhead?), although this usually causes the hazards to flash when putting the key in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qball Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi, Tried as advice, jump start. Purge. Still does not fire up. Any advice on the problem? Much appreciated. Thanks Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 sounds like electrical problem with ECU / injectors. Follow everything Inane listed, including the wiring harness to the injectors. Is the temperature gauge always at cold, or does it move to hot when starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qball Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 Hi, It does not move to hot when cranking. I notice, when I crank it. The engine will fire up alittle then afterwards will died off by itself. And I notice the fuel pump is not running after the engine died. Then when I switch off the completely and later turn it to 'ON'the fuel pump will run again. COuld it be my fuel cut off giving problem? Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Hmm, if the wiring is ok, then I'd try and rig up a fuel pressure guage and see if the pump is keeping up with demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosbeldia Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Mine did the same thing a time ago..... it was the pump.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-c Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 [Hi check the relays under the drivers seat they come loose. they power the pump/ecu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 [Hi check the relays under the drivers seat they come loose. they power the pump/ecu. Temp gauge goes to hot though, when they come loose and fail to power the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qball Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Hi.. Change the relay as one has a arcing mark. Still the rig is not firing up. May have to send to the workshop I guess. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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