bellringer6 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hi can anyone help me. My series 3 has had a few issues trying to start and the other day didnt want to know at all. It just clicks. I changed the battery thinking that was the problem. Nope, still clicks. Then changed the started and solonoid. Nothing. Bypassed the solonoid and it still just clicks. Checked the new batter and that was fine. I turned the engine manually then tried again. Engine turned once the click. Im out of things to replace and all ideas I have tried. Please help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainH Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Have you checked all the all the earth connections ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hi and welcome to LR4x4 Is it diesel or petrol ? either way , as said above firstly check the earth connections to chassis and engine , if the leads are old there could well be cracks internally and/or bad joints to terminals . New properly made leads often make a world of difference . This also applies to the main battery live going to the starter . It's best to have an earth direct from the battery -ve to the engine then earth engine to chassis and bulkhead with lighter gauge leads cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellringer6 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hi Steve Thanks for the advise. Yes its petrol. I changed all the earths this afternoon. Still nothing. Its just really odd. There is movement in the engine and the starter is engaging and disengaging. Any other advise I would really appreciate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 If it's clunking in then out on the key it would suggest not enough current to crank it . Get the battery discharge tested and if ok replace the main earth and live to starter . do you know if it's a pre-engaged starter or inertia ? cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellringer6 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Its an inertia one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainH Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hi, this is is a puzzler as you say there is movement in the engine and you have replaced all the obvious culprits but I hope you still have the old parts for now. Were you able to turn over the engine by hand and see the flywheel turn a full couple of revolutions ? If the parts you have replaced are good I would concur with Steveb and double check all the earth connections again making sure they are clean and tight. I don't have much faith in some replacement parts so I would also try a combination of old and new parts to double check, try the old solenoid or the starter motor again. You could bench test them first if you'd like to make sure. Remember sometimes it is the simplest thing causing the problem and a good nights sleep will give you a fresh pair of eyes and ideas the next morning. Good luck with this problem. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 If you have already bypassed the solenoid, ruling it out, and have replaced the earths (ensuring the connection points on engine and chassis are clean), then the fault has to be either the battery or the starter motor. Try another battery or a jump start, and that'll confirm which it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellringer6 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Hi lads, Thanks for all your help. I thought how could I chec the earths. I ran a jump lead from the starter motor and earthed it. She turned over 4 or 5 times on her own. It was slow but at least we are getting somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Series Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Check the starter motor drive gear has the same number of teeth as your old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellringer6 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Thanks for the advise. When I bought the new one the company asked me to count the teeth to make sure they were the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainH Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 you are part of the way to solving the problem, if you have to use a jump lead then there is an earthing issue. After a new battery and starter it should fire up easily or at the very least turn over quite fast. I would start by trying a compression test to rule out any issue with the cylinders/ Pistons. As an aside my first car was a 1957 Standard Pennant, we spent a week trying to sort out an problem with the engine cutting out but then immediately restarting. It turned out to be a broken lead in the distributor, as the engine advanced the lead tightened and broke the supply. While this is not your problem, I hope, it taught me that the insignificant is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwakers Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 if the jump lead you used to test was too small itd turn over slowly. clean or replace the engine and chassis earth and try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellringer6 Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Hi all Thanks for all the advise. Borrowed a stronger lead and success! Blimey I thought she was gonna take off the starter motor flew round and after 6 months of standing she fired into life. Once again thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainH Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I'm very pleased for you, I'm now wondering if, as it had been standing for so long the pistons had started to seize. Now you can enjoy it again. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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