ste clark Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 i just bought a superwinch husky off ebay from someone a 3 hour drive away.. cant get it to work now!! not sure if its just me being a spaz or not though so here goes! i thought just connect these two wires to jump leads and it will work... but no! the 3 wires to the remote control had been yanked off but they are labeled so easy enough to reconnect... still not working though!! 3 fat black cables go to winch.. 3 skinny cables with white covers to remote.. i thought big red one to battery live and little skinny black one with eye terminal to earth... what am i doing wrong chaps?? and pics of the winch if it helps!! yes it is in my living room and yes the missus does mind!! please help so i can get it working and outside onto my lanny!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=251 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopi...inch+motor+test PS Is that Les Hensons Carpet in there? he likes pink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Husky manual HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=251http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopi...inch+motor+test PS Is that Les Hensons Carpet in there? he likes pink its red.... think i tried this info nothing happened... connected a lead between A & f1 and a positive to f2 and nothing connected lead between A & f2 and positive to f1 and nothing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 tried the manual but cant make a lot of sense of it.... fathomed out which wire should be which colour and still no further!! no idea whats wrong...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 maybe the can type soleniods are duff, they do stick & it is possible to prise the body open to clean up the internal parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 from my Husky owners handbook & used to wire up mine originally. one of the soleniods is fitted wrong for starters, both should be the same way up, see the diagram below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 maybe the can type soleniods are duff, they do stick & it is possible to prise the body open to clean up the internal parts. what... prise the solenoids apart?? do they open like boot polish tins?? (only thing i could think of with a ridge at the top)! it didnt make any clicking or anything but i did briefly short one of the solenoids by touching the wires together on it and it clicked..... tried whacking the jump leads straight onto the motor too but they just gave off sparks and i got moaned at for nearly melting the rug!! this is doing my nut in!! i am probably the least patient person in the world and it does not help!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 the ridge on the soleniods is the joint, I managed to open my old soleniods up once, but couldn't fix them so fitted a Albright soleniod unit instead. IIRC the motor can't be run with a pair of jumpleads it needs one of the F terminals powered up as well as the A terminal & the body earthed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 i must seem like a proper retard now!! that picture makes no sense to me as i cant see which bdirection the solenoids are pointing and i can only see 9 connections... there are 6 on each of my solenoids!! dont suppose you have a picture of your solenoids do you?? would be much easier for me to copy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I don't have a photo of the can type soleniods, as my 110 has a different type fitted. my diagram is looking down on the terminal end of the can solenoids. strip yours down to the 2 solenoids & all the connecting straps then place them side by side standing on their flat end face with the terminal facing up & the larger body terminals facing to 12 & 6 o'clock positions, you might have to make up some new connector bars so you can connect them as per the diagram above or at least check the correct terminals are connected together. hope that helps found this picture, yours need to be connected like these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 you are a legend!! cheers for being patient with me... i will strip them all down and re-connect them like this when i get in from work this afternoon.. i find simple photos much easier to work from than wiring diagrams!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 happy to help, with the photo's above & the diagram I added you should be able to identify all the connecting straps by shape & location & then hopefully once sorted you should be able to get power to the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 why not dump them and buy an albright ( proper one) solves lots of problem the can type bring i had nothing but problems with my cans dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 why not dump them and buy an albright ( proper one) solves lots of problem the can type bringi had nothing but problems with my cans dave if i had any clues i would!!! the only winch i have had before was a hydraulic one which was on the motor when i got it!! as you might have guessed i am clueless on winches just now.. is the albright expensive? is it easy to connect? why is it better than these cans?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ste if any of the studs start to turn hold the inner nut with a suitable open end spanner otherwise the connections inside the can will be damaged, if these still won't pass power to the motor after you've reconnected the straps, quickest way to get the winch to run is to ditch the cans & buy a Albright soleniod. from one of these suppliers google links & the connection diagram is in the Tech Archive index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 if i had any clues i would!!! the only winch i have had before was a hydraulic one which was on the motor when i got it!!as you might have guessed i am clueless on winches just now.. is the albright expensive? is it easy to connect? why is it better than these cans?? albright unit is waterproof & a all in one unit, easy to connect & can be sited on the vehicle in a small area out of the way of dirt & water. got one on my husky, tucked in the front left corner on top of my 110's inner wheel arch. & it's much more robust & reliable than the can typr units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 think i tried this info nothing happened...connected a lead between A & f1 and a positive to f2 and nothing connected lead between A & f2 and positive to f1 and nothing..... Did you do the above with a decent ground? If you did, and the motor didn't spin, you've got an open circuit somewhere, either in the field/stator wiring, or most likely, in the rotor/armature wiring, the first thing i'd check would be the brushes and commutator. The solenoids do nothing more than what you stated above - supply current to one end of the field wiring (F1 or F2), then connect the other end of the field (F2 or F1) to the armature (A). If the motor doesn't work with you making the connections manually, it won't work with the solenoids either. Hope that helps. Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 re connected it all as per pictures supplied by western (cheers dude)! still nothing!! dont know whether to buy an albright or not.. winch only cost me £250 and i dont want to buy an albright and find out the motor is bust too! no idea how much that would cost to replace but i doubt its cheap!! never been so stuck i need a winch and i am always with my mates when i do go out!! i just liked the look of the bumper on ebay so i bought the winch off the same fella to go with it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Like i said, you don't need working solenoids to test the motor. Have a look at the brushes. a bit of TLC will cure sticky brushes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 i used a rare thing in my house!! PATIENCE!!!!!!! connected A F1 F2 combos and made it go in and out!!!! woohooo!!!! will order an albright for it!! is there any particular one i need???? had a quick search and there seem to be a few ranging from £20 to £60.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 http://www.firstfour.co.uk/warn/sealed-sol...1381-550127.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Well done, I'd recommend the albright unit, the one linked to above ^^^^ will be fine, definitly worth the price & your patience to get it working well. 12 volt albright type soleniod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 except you need the 12volt version for the disco dont get the cheapo ones off ebay there not sealed and arent water proof dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste clark Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 thanks for all the advice chaps!! going to order the one in the link as soon as!! think £54 is reasonable to get a £1000 winch working that i only paid £250 for!! `i am led to believe this winch is a very good one and pretty tough too so i will get the albright and time will tell!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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