Sam of Sweden Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Hi there, just got to replacing the main bearing shells after lots of checking and measuring. The block(200tdi)gasket pack I bought here in sweden was an allmakes product. The T-seals that line inside the rear and widest bearing cap are not cork but a strange soft gritty rubber compound? I've had a pig of a job getting the cap to slide in place. Don't want to slip at this stage. Tried cutting the required amount off, but the rubber blunts a scalpel blade in about two seconds! Should I try and find a genuine cork seal set or should I use the sealant(stc611) technique? That is the squeezing sealant down the gaps where the seals should have been, and then quickly putting the ladderframe on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) do you have the Defender workshop manual ? if not here's the section from that manual, the drawing shows 'cork' seals, last block gasket kit I bought was a Elring make & if you need a set of cork type seals, I still have them in as new condition, can post them over if you want them. here they are File0078.pdf Edited February 14, 2009 by western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam of Sweden Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 do you have the Defender workshop manual ? if not here's the section from that manual, the drawing shows 'cork' seals, last block gasket kit I bought was a Elring make & if you need a set of cork type seals, I still have them in as new condition, can post them over if you want them. here they are I found this article in an improvements section, and stripping my block showed the same technique? Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to send just the one page But seeing all the workshop manuals from turbo diesels through to 300s it shows the use of cork? I've got a selection of workshop manuals on cd-rom but have to fill in the blanks occasionally looking at old turbo diesel data and 300tdi data. I am though very interested in the offer to get some new seals, as you're feeling so generous! Thanks very much I take it we should start the bargaining process. LR_1988_model_improvements.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldewin Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 PM sent I'm curious why one would use the cork seals when you could inject sealant? Have any of you tried the sealant method and what were the results?Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I've used the rubber type in the past, and they are harder to fit/trim. The problem with cork is that it eventually shrinks, so will inevitably leak. The rubber type doesn't shrink, but goes rock solid. I would still use cork though, and I did with my 300TDi engine. Payen set has the cork type in it. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 those above came in a Elring engine block gasket kit. I've had no need to strip my 200Tdi down that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I have the Rubber ones on mine the cork were leaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruntus Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I have the Rubber ones on mine the cork were leaking. I bought rubber ones on tonies advice and got them from turners. Cheers G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 tonies Snigger Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam of Sweden Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 So nobodies tried the sealant trick yet? The attachment is a workshop doc that came on a disk full of stuff for everything other than a 200. Looks like a very easy way of doing it. The stuff´s called hylosil, and pretty sticky! Sam 12engine_hylosil.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 no reason why you can't use it on youe engine, just need to be sure the complete recess is full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldewin Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 My only reservation on the Hylosil is any air bubbles that my occur when it is injected, or will it force out all of the air? A question I have, can you replace the t-seals while the engine and trans are in place or will this knacker the O-ring between the block and transmission adapter plate? Cheers, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 to get access to the main bearing, the ladder frame has to come off [if it's a 200tdi] which in turn needs the gearbox/flywheel housing removed as IIRC 3 bolts go through from the flywheel housing into the ladder frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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