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[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Erm

As I couldn't get the springs I needed (LR No more Make - how jolly helpfull )

I did some recalcs and was going to try Red n Whites 17.71 Ins and 170 Lbs, and

then found nope, LR No makey them either FFS.....

But, whilst at the LR Specialist I was persuaded to try Allmakes Red & White NRC 4304s

so I bought a pair, got home, ....fitted them .... looked and said... "WTF............"

Removed springs,.... nope they are not 17.71 ins, ....or even close, they are nearly 17",

well one is ......the other is 17.25 (nearly)

So, these POS are going back for a refund (no probs there) but I thought Allmakes was better

than the standard dreadfull aftermarket tut ?.....or was I wrong ?

My thoughts are if they can't make the F thing the right length, was the hope re the

poundage being any closer to what it should be ?

Thoughts re Allmakes and this problem ?

Nige

[errol209]

Erm

As I couldn't get the springs I needed (LR No more Make - how jolly helpfull )

I did some recalcs and was going to try Red n Whites 17.71 Ins and 170 Lbs, and

then found nope, LR No makey them either FFS.....

But, whilst at the LR Specialist I was persuaded to try Allmakes Red & White NRC 4304s

so I bought a pair, got home, ....fitted them .... looked and said... "WTF............"

Removed springs,.... nope they are not 17.71 ins, ....or even close, they are nearly 17",

well one is ......the other is 17.25 (nearly)

So, these POS are going back for a refund (no probs there) but I thought Allmakes was better

than the standard dreadfull aftermarket tut ?.....or was I wrong ?

My thoughts are if they can't make the F thing the right length, was the hope re the

poundage being any closer to what it should be ?

Thoughts re Allmakes and this problem ?

Nige

Er, generally "alright" and almost always better than "we know who". The 0.25" isn't the extra length to compensate for driver and fuel, is it?

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

Er, generally "alright" and almost always better than "we know who". The 0.25" isn't the extra length to compensate for driver and fuel, is it?

Nope, they are supposed to be the same / same part no

Nige

[cipx2]

did the springs come in some sort of sealed box/wraping with allmakes label?

if not, we can imagine all sorts of things not involving allmakes.

why not return them and get a proper matching set instead money back?

[western]

red/white springs were NRC4304 LRSeries website also has them under a Bearmach supply, maybe worth a enquiry

Paddocks at 9 quid each

island4x4

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

did the springs come in some sort of sealed box/wraping with allmakes label?

if not, we can imagine all sorts of things not involving allmakes.

why not return them and get a proper matching set instead money back?

Almmakes labels on both - re "get a proper matching set "

from who ? these are S****e, Britpart ? is it worth even bothering,

and LR Genuine NLA .......

Oh happy F days

Nige

[BogMonster]

Put your big hairy winch on them and stretch them out a bit

[cipx2]

..- re "get a proper matching set " from who ? these are S****e, Britpart ? is it worth even bothering,

and LR Genuine NLA .......

From the same "LR specialist", Allmakes origin. The springs should have been at least equal in length.

I know there are several places on the net where it says free length should be 17.71".

But there are several other places where the free length of red/white NRC4304 is given as being 16.95".

Can't say which one is right as none of my official RRC manuals has this info.

As for the genuine version availability from LR, they were "removed from service" in microcat long time ago. Same as many other parts (200 tdi vintage for example). The law in the automotive industry says they have to supply parts for 10 years after manufacturing & selling the last vehicle of the series. So you can't blame them.

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

I know there are several places on the net where it says free length should be 17.71".

But there are several other places where the free length of red/white NRC4304 is given as being 16.95".

Can't say which one is right as none of my official RRC manuals has this info.

Really ?. I was 99% certain that they should be 17.71" sort of was 'Burnt into my brain' measurement

I've done a quick search and find the 17.71 all the time, but not the 16.95" you mention

Have you got any links re the above, and is anyone out there who has Red & White off their truck

able to do a measurement and post up what they are ?. I was sure 17.71 was the length, would be good

to be certain before maoning at the supplier

Nige

[cipx2]

This will give you 4-5 links: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=nrc4304+"16.95"

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

This will give you 4-5 links: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=nrc4304+"16.95"

Hmmm

I'll try that again but just took me to Google front page:

This is what I had tried, 17.71 seems to be the number, 16.95 is there once,

need someone to measure some genuines please

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%2BNRC4304+%2BLength+%2BLand+%2BRover&btnG=Search&meta=

Nige

[cipx2]

Does this work? http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=NRC4304+%2216.95%22&btnG=Search&meta=

here are some direct links:

http://www.offroadexperience.com/wcb/emu.htm - close to the bottom of the page

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/soteam/Offroad/Tecnica/Sospensioni/Molle.htm - somewwhere in the middle

http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=5012 - post #10