More articulation by moving the shock

[pete300tdi90]

Hey, I was thinking about moving the rear shock mounts to increase travel. I have +5 shocks, but more is always nice

in the photo I posted someone has moved them in-bored, but I want to know if anyone has done it, and what worked/didnt? annoyingly when the photo was taken i was too busy pulling a funny face and not at where the shock was located, but you get the idea of what im after. hehe

please post any ideas you have...

Pete

[RTF]

Hi If you look at the diff gaurd QT they usedto make a bolt on kit to fit the shocks into the middle of the vehicle

the wee suzuki SJ use the same set up for there rear shochs

[FridgeFreezer]

Moving shock mounts up / along is done fairly often. The further you tilt them away, the softer you make the setup as they're acting at an angle. Your photo shows the same idea that Gon2far did way back, putting an extra x-member under the back and canting the shocks in at about 45 degrees to gain as much length as possible.

[martifers]

Surely not worth the hassle of doing unless you do something to alleviate the restriction of the trailing arms... 4 link, johnny joints, x-eng or gigglepin arms etc..?

[FridgeFreezer]

Stock Landy suspension with longer shocks can flex a little more:

[pete300tdi90]

Fridge... do you know he price of them shocks... Martifers has them and although they are very nice, even he agrees they are a little expensive lol.

Also, Tom... you dont know what me and mark have done... only made a small change, but as the bushes just come apart anyway, should help

[pete300tdi90]

DO you think It should be done like this... http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6760&page=5 only problem is that i notice these shocks have rounds ends, but mine have straight ones (much like front shocks have) Do you think they would snap off under extreme flex?

Thanks, Pete

[bishbosh]

Other than pose value, why bother? Better off working on front to rear balance, and as Fridge has demonstrated, with standard shock positions you can achieve a lot.....

[stuck]

Stock Landy suspension with longer shocks can flex a little more:

Ehm,

Doesn't look like stock LR suspension to me

Seriously, what set up is that John?

Mick.

[FridgeFreezer]

Doesn't look like stock LR suspension to me

Seriously, what set up is that John?

OME springs in stock positions, stock A-frame, HOFS cranked stock-length trailing arms, stock cast hockey sticks, stock bushes, long shocks. Incidentally, as per LR's stock setup it's unbalanced front-to-rear, articulation wise, but worked very well indeed.

You may also want to look at Nige's setup on his 90 - again using mostly off-the-shelf or bling-free parts, with minimum lift, and more articulation than many of the expensive kits.

It can all be worked out using engineering and Trev's spring calculator, you just need to cut through the bull and the bling.

[pete300tdi90]

Mick, its equipes shocks (use to be scorpion) not sure about the springs tho... LRS sell them and are very nice (if a few pennies)

draw up some sketch ideas today.... will be fine, if I had no exhaust... maybe when i tray back it in a few years will try again. Thanks anyway.

[stuck]

OME springs in stock positions, stock A-frame, HOFS cranked stock-length trailing arms, stock cast hockey sticks, stock bushes, long shocks. Incidentally, as per LR's stock setup it's unbalanced front-to-rear, articulation wise, but worked very well indeed.

You may also want to look at Nige's setup on his 90 - again using mostly off-the-shelf or bling-free parts, with minimum lift, and more articulation than many of the expensive kits.

It can all be worked out using engineering and Trev's spring calculator, you just need to cut through the bull and the bling.

Thanks John.

[FridgeFreezer]

I've lost track of who's asking what about which thing, but the shocks on Petal are RaceRunner, probably a bit over budget for most peeps. Then again, in a TDi 90 you don't need that sort of performance anyway.