pigster Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 reading on the web so far, the problem with the motor is that it judders when starting off or under load... It doesn't slip or rev without extra movement/speed involved. so could it be a viscous or IRD instead... what are the simptons or these things going wrong. cheers in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudAllOverIt Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 If the VC has gone it'll have locked up. Easiest way to tell if this has happened is to put a mark (with paint or tip-ex whatever) on the VC input shaft and output shaft -- mark the shafts in the same position so that the two marks line up. Then go for a short drive. Make sure you go round a few corners or do a couple of tight three-point turns. Check the marks when you get back and they should now be in different positions indicating that the VC is allowing slip between in the I/P and O/P shafts. If the marks stay in the same positions the VC locked. The offical method is to jack up one rear wheel and try to turn it -- but this takes so much force even with a good VC that it's not really that reliable a method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Judder is a warn clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigster Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 cheers .. I thought it would be the clutch but with all the other gubbins on this motor I thought I would double check first. so there is life on this forum then,... all of 3 people.. or are these things sooooo reliable that nothing goes wrong .. apart from the drive train, and the rear window. # Judder is a warn clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrycol Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 cheers ..I thought it would be the clutch but with all the other gubbins on this motor I thought I would double check first. so there is life on this forum then,... all of 3 people.. or are these things sooooo reliable that nothing goes wrong .. apart from the drive train, and the rear window. # The symptoms you describe are clutch/flywheel related - also possibly the front rubber mount for the rear diff. Just so you know if the IRD fails - the car will not be driveable but may be able to move with loud banging from the front end. Obvious symptoms of a locked VC are load on the engine - like the handbrake is on - may even stall when backing with the steering on full lock. Rear tyres can scrubb out but not always. To test the VC jack up the rear right wheel, have the car in 1st gear and release the handbrake - remove the small center cap from the rear wheel and put a socket onto the large hub nut with a long breaker bar - after taking up the drivetrain slack apply steady heavy pressure to the breaker bar in a clockwise direction - the wheel should very slowly turn - if you jerk at it, the wheel will not turn. If the wheel turns, the VC is OK - if it will not turn the VC is locked - do not drive the car as the IRD and/or rear diff WILL fail. If you need to drive the car remove the entire drive shaft (2 shafts and VC) from IRD to the rear diff - the car will drive OK in front wheel drive - do not be tempted to just remove one shaft. Hope this helps Garry Canberra AUSTRALIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blippie Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 so there is life on this forum then,... all of 3 people.. or are these things sooooo reliable that nothing goes wrong .. apart from the drive train, and the rear window. ... and the head gasket ... Still the most reliable car we've ever had! Cheers Blippie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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