DefcoL Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Hi .. Can anyone tell me what the regs are for fixing rear light clusters to my tray back? ie distance apart / height / from corners and how far can they be set in from rear of tray? thanks Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Not sure there are specific distance regs in the same way as there is for headlamps, spotlamps, etc. Just inboard of the corner and positioned so that vehicles behind wouldn't be confused as to the rough width of the rear of your vehicle. If you fit a fog lamp, then it must be a fog lamp, as in made for the purpose, and on the offside rear corner (nearside is optional, but must must work if fitted). Reverse lamp is optional, but a single unit must be on near side and again if a second one is fitted, then it must work. This is all just a bit of an educated guess to be honest. If you need to know the bones of it I can find out later in the week as I have 2 MOT's to do. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefcoL Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 Not sure there are specific distance regs in the same way as there is for headlamps, spotlamps, etc. Just inboard of the corner and positioned so that vehicles behind wouldn't be confused as to the rough width of the rear of your vehicle. If you fit a fog lamp, then it must be a fog lamp, as in made for the purpose, and on the offside rear corner (nearside is optional, but must must work if fitted). Reverse lamp is optional, but a single unit must be on near side and again if a second one is fitted, then it must work. This is all just a bit of an educated guess to be honest. If you need to know the bones of it I can find out later in the week as I have 2 MOT's to do. Les. Thanks les, I needed to know so I can get it ready for new MOT Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Answers could well be found at The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Linky no worky MOG Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefcoL Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 Fixed Thanks Mog Looks like Les is right..(as if he wouldnt be) so will fit them to look right Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MJG Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 If you fit a fog lamp, then it must be a fog lamp, as in made for the purpose, and on the offside rear corner (nearside is optional, Les. Hi Les - I always understood this too but have noticed a number of new cars recently that have one rear fog lamp fitted bang in the centre. Does the offside rule only apply to retro fits???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Erm, I dunno to be honest. Will find out for sure and reply in this thread. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Hi Les - I always understood this too but have noticed a number of new cars recently that have one rear fog lamp fitted bang in the centre. Does the offside rule only apply to retro fits???? Rear fog lights must be fitted in 1 of 3 ways 1. if just 1 rear fog light to the right or drivers [nearest centre of the road] side of the vehicle 2. or if just one on the vehicle centre line 3. if a matched pair then equally spaced on both sides of the vehicle. [all of these subject to height above ground & distance from brake lights.] 1. can be seen on all recent Defenders 2. on IIRC small Puegot 206 & similar size cars 3. as here on my 110 -- the 2 lower reds next to the reverse lights whichever way is chosen ALL must be working to pass the MOT otherwise it's a fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MJG Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 2. on IIRC small Puegot 206 & similar size cars like Les I always thought if one was fitted it had to be towards the off(drivers) side but as I said I have noticed a number of cars lately with just one smack in the centre, al la 206 as you say...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 MJG ---- like Les I always thought if one was fitted it had to be towards the off(drivers) side So did I, read Number 1 above again & 2 can be a alternative position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dew110CSW Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Mine got through the MOT Fine with just one: Although looking at Western's list it seems about right yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 IIRC The rules on fog lamp fitting is No More than 1 meter from ground level, And No less than 100mm from any rear side lamp , And to be fitted to the Offside or the centre of the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MJG Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 So did I read Number 1 above again & 2 can be a alternative position Errr yes so why the sarcasm....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 No scarcasm intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MJG Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 No scarcasm intended. No worries then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 whichever way is chosen ALL must be working to pass the MOT otherwise it's a fail. Not True , If you have two fog lamps fitted to the rear only the Offside one needs to work to get a pass . Such as Escort vans they were fitted with both N/S and O/S fog lamps in the lamp clusters but the nearside lamp clusters bulb holder is left blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Mine got through the MOT Fine with just one: The MOT means nothing, it merely checks that they work, not that they are positioned correctly. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Not True , If you have two fog lamps fitted to the rear only the Offside one needs to work to get a pass .Such as Escort vans they were fitted with both N/S and O/S fog lamps in the lamp clusters but the nearside lamp clusters bulb holder is left blank. OK, but if both have bulbs in they must be in working order to pass surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Nope ! The regulations state that at least one fog lamp fitted to the offside or centrally must be operational. And correctly distanced from other rear lamps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 So it does, just reading it on www.motuk.co.uk/manual_110.htm para 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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