russ1 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Hello people Been needing new calipers for a while now and might as well try and up grade them. So can i run these or would it cause problems. http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFENDER/B...m_LA930436.html http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFENDER/B...m_LA930456.html its a 1993 200tdi runing 15inch wheels. Thanks very much Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 As long as you've got the vented calipers, then they should fit straight on no problem. and standard LR brakes just clear 15" rims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Grooved and cross drilled discs on a defender? Err... why? Unless you're aiming to do a few track days with it you're really not going to notice too much of a difference over stock discs. If you're after better road braking you'd be much better off looking at the pads you're using and fitting some stickier tyres (read as road pattern instead of AT's or MT's) to it than messing with the discs and calipers. FWIW - cross drilling and grooving was a way of increasing the cooling of the disc, reducing or eliminating the effects of 'gassing' when the brakes are used hard over a long period and for reducing the unsprung mass of the car (prior to the advent of carbon brakes) - all of this was for racing purposes and, as such, more or less useless on a 4x4, unless you're going to race it. What the cross-drilling and grooving will do is seriously reduce the life expectancy of your pads, provide a really good area for stress cracking in the disc (which is pretty seriously bad news if it happens when you really need the brakes) and look ever so slightly cooler to Studly McNonuts and his chav mates in their mum's 1.4 Corsa with the Max Power stickers in the rear window Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ1 Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 ADZ Sorry dont think i explaned myself very well it was more the vented parts i was asking about just the only pic on craddocks was the above ones, was just looking to see if i could use the wider vented ones insted ov the solid ones. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 As the other guy replied - yes with the right calipers for the vented discs. You'll still get a better result fitting colder pads or stickier tyres first, vented discs only cool down faster than solid ones, so are better under prolonged braking or braking from very high speed (brakes don't work when falling down mine shafts or while being towed by the 9:15 Paddington to Penzance express which are, apparently, the only ways to make a 200 Tdi defender go at high speed) - I've yet to get mine even close to fading with solid discs all round, same year and model as yours Wasn't trying to imply you should be driving a Corsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 The stock brakes should be quite strong. If you don't feel that they are, they probably need some attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastcard Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Agree with ADZ above. Spend your money sorting out what you have and you will notice a considerable difference. Stock Defender brakes are perfectly good for all but the most extreme applications. At 1993 you probably have disks on the back. If not and you really feel you are underbraked then this maybe worth looking at. Vented disks on a 200tdi :hysterical: (Sorry - couldn't resist ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Vented disks on a 200tdi :hysterical: (Sorry - couldn't resist ) I fitted standard vented front discs on my 200Tdi when i had one (90 with 7.50 tyres), and buzzing around the hills in Wales on greenlane weekends, i really noticed the lack of brake fade coming down the steep ones compared to when i had the solid discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I have vented front disc on my 110CSW too, much better on long downhill sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Just don't use your brakes.... Seriously. Choose the right gear. Brake fade while road driving should never happen in a manual gearbox vehicle. Coming up on 130000 km on the VW and the pads are maybe 25% worn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastcard Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Coming up on 130000 km on the VW and the pads are maybe 25% worn.... But it's on it's 3rd gearbox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Brake fade while road driving should never happen in a manual gearbox vehicle. i would have thought NEVER was quite a strong way of putting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Just don't use your brakes.... Seriously. Choose the right gear. Brake fade while road driving should never happen in a manual gearbox vehicle. Haha, you should see how they teach driving over here now then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Try driving down the A39 Porlock hill 1 in 4 with a heavy trailer attached without touching the brakes, they will get very warm regardless of being in a low gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Try driving down the A39 Porlock hill 1 in 4 with a heavy trailer attached without touching the brakes, they will get very warm regardless of being in a low gear. Heavy trailers should have their own brakes... We weren't talking about trailering, but there is always a low enough gear. Do large trucks ride their brakes down steep hills??? I think not. Strangely enough there are hills around here as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1G UP Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 HGV's have got exhaust brakes 40 Tonnes won't be held back even in 1st! I've been to Calgary and Porlock and Porlocks steep! Great for going up really fast in a very fast thing with brakes,cause i brake going up hill sometimes as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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