Se7enUp Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 300 tdi Battery is fine. Headlights are nice and bright and don't dim after a few minutes use. Immobiliser seems to be working OK. Earths and battery connections seem OK too. Turn the key and hear the relay click in the cab and the solenoid click under the bonnet....but the starter is silent and the engine doesn't turn over at all! Dodgy solenoid (aka new starter)???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Give it a bash with a hammer then retry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se7enUp Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 That's the plan for tomorrow Problem started after wading in some very sandy puddles (Bordon) Hoping it's just some grit where it shouldn't be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hose it out first after all nothing to lose now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 easy job to fix. Take it of, separate the solonoid. Free up the engaging spigot. Grease it up. Stick it all back together.... job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se7enUp Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 Excellent - cheers guys. I'm now armed with a hammer, a hosepipe, sockets, spanners and some grease. I'll let you know how I get on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 dont want to teach granny etc but make sure you pull the +ve lead off the battery first, it becomes a bit of a liability when its disconnected from the solenoid and is dangling around... ask me how I know Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doda456 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 If possible get an assistant to turn the key whilst you hit with the hammer, with a bit of luck it should fire up, otherwise it gets a bit tedious and comical, When your trying to hit the starter motor and turn the key at the same time, 'cos trust me you cant Ive tried Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 A non-percusive, pacificist and grease free trick is (if a clear space behind permits) engage a high gear, release parking brake, open door, brace self against door frame and rock car backwards a bit (to move the flywheel a tiny bit). Because the starter motor won't turn until the solenoid has pushed the dog forward, the motor don't go if the dog don't move. Happens very infrequently to me, and rocking fixes it solves the immediate problem. I probably ought to fix the problem properly ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se7enUp Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 Well, removed the starter (Bosch) and stripped it down. Solenoid was really clean, the rest of the motor was pretty grim! Lots of grit and rust internally. Cleaned it up the best I could and tested it with a spare battery - success - all worked fine. Bolted it back onto the engine, turned the key and it started first time Tried again and ...... click Anyway, I popped down the the local specialists and bit the bullet. I've just fitted a new (Bearmach) starter and all is well again. Starts everytime I'll pop the Bosch one into the local alternator/starter repair place and hopefully when fixed it can become a spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Is the one from Bearmach a Valeo one by any chance?? I have 4 in the scrap pile waiting to be weiged in. Finally bit the bullet and bought a replacement Bosch one and not another problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se7enUp Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 Bearmach one doesn't have a name on it at all. I guess that's not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Anything will be better than the Britpart one I had. Lasted about 3 months. Took it apart and ALL the bushes had disintegrated! Have had Bosch and valeo ones without problems and both can sorted if they start to stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 easy job to fix. Take it of, separate the solonoid. Free up the engaging spigot. Grease it up. Stick it all back together.... job done Looks like I might have to strip my starter motor. Bit of a basic question, what grease is recommended? Regards Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSheds Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Looks like I might have to strip my starter motor. Bit of a basic question, what grease is recommended? Regards Brendan I have no idea what is 'recommended' (by manufacturers for example) but in the past when I have done this (many times) I have just used a fairly thin smear of normal grease - I don't know if it is important or not but I tend to avoid moly or graphite greases in case they conduct a little, but they would probably be ok too. I am about to strip my RRC starter (not that there is a problem, it's just that I have it off at the moment) and so thought I might as well - anyway - this time, since I have it available and since I will be trying to make the starter more off-road friendly, I thought I would use waterproof grease. If you are in a hurry then sometimes they respond well to liberal dousing with WD40 (or similar) and cyclical manual manipulation (fnarr fnarr) followed by bench 'testing' with jump leads - but make sure it is fastened down (ratchet strap it to something) since they have a vicious kick, oh and watch out for the WD40 'POP' and the big blue flames too... Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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