pigster Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I always thought that the stop solinoid shut off, which then put the plug into the whole and hey presto motor stopped.. however read that someone is running a diesel with out the solinoid in place - how does it stop. Does it cut something esle as well... ? is it the solinoid that does the business? its a 200tdi by the way. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I always thought that the stop solinoid shut off, which then put the plug into the whole and hey presto motor stopped.. however read that someone is running a diesel with out the solinoid in place - how does it stop.Does it cut something esle as well... ? is it the solinoid that does the business? its a 200tdi by the way. thanks in advance. Manual fuel shut off????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 the solenoid shuts the fuel flow when power disconnected as it holds the solenoid in the open position without it a manual shut off as Will says or stall the engine no other way that is practical of course: running out of fuel removing FIP Removing cylinder head will have a satisfactory result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Best way I ever heard of is to drive into deep water with about 6000 rpm showing Makes a loverrrrrrrrrly noise when it stops the engine Not very easy to re-start afterwards though Lara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I prefer trees Lara - restarts not so much of a problem, cheap firewood although bodywork bill rise a little bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 If the fuel solenoid has had the plunger removed, then the engine will start still, and will make the vehicle slightly easier to steal. However, switching off the ignition won't stop the engine, maybe a decompression lever to stop it, although fitting one would be engineering work. Stalling the engine would be the easiest way, although not so good for the clutch I would have thought. Blocking the inlet manifold with some kind of flap valve - similar for the exhaust. You could lend it to Les brock, who will blow the headgasket Or BishBosh, who won't stop it immediately, but he'll get it stuck for so long it'll run out of fuel and conk out anyway Or White90, who'll not actually ever get to start it, as he'll be constantly taking it apart to fix/modify bits of it. Disco Dunc will bash it with a hammer, swear at it, and then cut it up with an angle grinder HFH will make it so heavy, it'll just plain refuse to start in the first place! Turbocharger will make so many intelligent, incomprehensible remarks that the engine will get an inferiority complex and stop anyway. Sorry guys Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigster Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 hahahaha... thanks for that... so in a nut shell... it needs it to turn off.. right ok.. some methods are a little extreme I reckon .. but one day I may just give them a go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 nice one Les I have a corner of a field reserved just for you just mind the stingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 , maybe a decompression lever to stop it, although fitting one would be engineering work. We used to have a Kubota compact tractor, and that had a decomp lever to aid cold starting. in the "Japanese translated manual" that you got with it, it stated "that the decomp lever should never be operated when engine is running as valves might bite dust" (cue Queen song: "another one bites the dust...") Blocking the inlet manifold with some kind of flap valve - similar for the exhaust. A mate of mine working on his diesel hi-lux tried this by using a rag directly onto the end of the inlet manifold (as he had his air filter disconnected). it took him ages to remove the head, then remove the bits of rag.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I have a corner of a field reserved just for youjust mind the stingers Oh dear! Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Oh dear! Les. Reminiscent of "Delivarance"..... "Squeel like a pig booooy...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush65 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 My 4BD1-T engine has a manual stop lever on the injection pump. I was in a yacht race to Lord Howe Island one time, with very bad weather and big seas. With the mainsail fully reefed and a storm jib, we were still overpowered and the boat was sailing on her ear. The Volvo auxiliary diesel was started to charge the battery (needed for navigation lights, instruments and communications). But could not be shut down as it continued to run on engine oil from the crankcase and the govenor in the fuel pump could not prevent it overspeeding. Eventually the flywheel came off and stalled the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 My 4BD1-T engine has a manual stop lever on the injection pump.I was in a yacht race to Lord Howe Island one time, with very bad weather and big seas. With the mainsail fully reefed and a storm jib, we were still overpowered and the boat was sailing on her ear. The Volvo auxiliary diesel was started to charge the battery (needed for navigation lights, instruments and communications). But could not be shut down as it continued to run on engine oil from the crankcase and the govenor in the fuel pump could not prevent it overspeeding. Eventually the flywheel came off and stalled the engine. could they not just have cut off its air supply i remember in one of the scrapheap challenges that after some enthusiastic tuning of a truck diesel engine it started revving towards destruction. most of the team downed tools and ran for it apart from one brave soul who suffocated the engine with, i think, a towel. my isuzu diesel is a bit reluctant to stop when its really low, as in 5l or less in the tank, on fuel. on the few occasions it has happened i just stalled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomeranger Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Some older engines have a lever on the side of the fuel pump which basically moves the rack in the pump and the engine just stalls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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