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Changed the blown engine for a nice low mileage 3.9 - transferred all the MS and Edis over and reworked all the fuel and ignition maps - runs lovely smooth and quiet. I decided to use it for work to check everything out - really pleased with it- pulls like a train thro all the gears - until I took it on the motorway- it just won't pull 5th gear over 3k revs and it struggles in 4th- everything looks totally normal on the laptop - the afr on wot is 12.5 to 13 and at 3k it's running about 34 degrees advance-WHAT AM I MISSING ??

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Got a data-log?

I run MS on an old laptop i have and I have had no luck at all sending data logs to the forum-I was interested to see nige's comment that he thought 12.5 afr on wot is lean- what sort of figures do you think it should be?
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Reset throttle calibration position in software?

I have reset all the sensors twice now-doesnt seem to be a problem with them- I,m running the injection system off the 5.0lre ie 4.6 system but i dont think theres any difference to a 3.9 apart from a larger plenum and the later idle valve
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Send me a log via my email :)

Wot can see the gauge go to near 0 -4 dependant on conditions

But booting it 12.5 is not that far of stoc 14.7

The gauge is more a " guide" than gospel tho...

What is your req fuel & post up your ve table

Nige

req fuel is 18.1- 9.05ms -4squirts pe cycle

ve

59 59 59 60 64 64 64 66 67 69 77 80 84 85 85 85

59 59 59 60 64 64 64 65 67 67 76 79 84 85 85 85

58 58 58 59 61 63 63 65 65 65 76 82 85 85 85 85

54 54 56 56 58 62 62 62 64 68 78 80 83 83 83 83

52 54 54 54 57 60 60 62 65 66 77 80 82 83 83 83

51 52 52 52 55 60 60 60 61 65 71 76 79 80 80 80

46 48 50 51 53 55 55 57 58 62 70 70 76 76 76 76

46 47 48 49 51 53 54 56 61 62 69 69 73 73 73 73

44 45 47 48 51 53 53 54 56 62 67 68 72 73 73 73

39 42 47 48 49 52 52 52 56 58 62 68 71 73 73 73

38 38 45 45 47 51 51 51 54 56 63 67 70 72 73 73

37 37 40 42 43 44 44 44 51 54 60 62 69 70 70 70

35 35 36 39 40 40 42 42 43 45 48 53 57 60 65 67

33 33 34 35 36 36 36 38 40 43 49 52 57 59 61 65

32 32 34 34 36 36 36 38 38 40 46 48 50 50 50 50

33 33 36 37 37 38 38 38 40 40 43 47 49 49 49 50

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Open megatune Right click on any gauge Select TPS - this will now show TPS as a temp gauge... Drive Keep an eye on the TPS gauge does it go as low as say 20 ish and up to - wot around 250-300 and everywhere in between ?
I'v got tps gauge showing and all seems to be ok
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Hmmm

Does seem a tad lean

Try Upping Fuel Req to 20 + 10

and send me a log :)

Nige

Nige

ok will log it tonite on the way home and have a bash at emailing it to you tomorrow-changed the req fuel and it ran harsh even after knocking down the ve table on idle
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Looks exceptionally lean 70Kpa - WOT.

Are the injectors standard?

At that AFR and 34 degrees at sea level I would be very surprised if its not pinking.

What make WB? Measure the voltage directly off the WB and make sure MS is reading the same.

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Fixed ! I think it is something to with having a safari snorkel on- at low speeds it has no effect but at high speeds it rams air in and weakens the fuel - - I disconnected it from the air filter housing and the prob disappeared- so richened up the wot ve and that seems to have sorted it- it just means that at lower speeds its really is rich at wot

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Ah Ha

Yep, too small a snorkel will reduce the air flow and cuase starvation big time

Many took the mickey out of me when I made my snorkel, it was after a call to J Eales re bore size that I gulped.

Disconnect and relog, you may well find the VE retunes itself with full air flow

Nige

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Do you mean you're seeing MAP's over 100? You could always add an extra row to the top of the VE table for the "high speed" MAP readings so it goes richer.

Funny you sould say that the reading on the ve table will get to wot with just half throtle- Iv been wondering about that- is it something to do with this snorkle???
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Ah Ha

Yep, too small a snorkel will reduce the air flow and cuase starvation big time

Many took the mickey out of me when I made my snorkel, it was after a call to J Eales re bore size that I gulped.

Disconnect and relog, you may well find the VE retunes itself with full air flow

Nige

So what bore snorkel did you end up with Nige?
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Ah Ha

Yep, too small a snorkel will reduce the air flow and cuase starvation big time

Many took the mickey out of me when I made my snorkel, it was after a call to J Eales re bore size that I gulped.

Disconnect and relog, you may well find the VE retunes itself with full air flow

Nige

Surley if its running lean its getting too much air , so the snorkle is working too well?

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