=jon= Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Hi, The steering box & relay on my S3 are decidedly ropey, so I'm considering a PAS conversion instead. The fabrication and welding isn't a problem (I'm lucky enough to have a very handy Dad!), but working out how everything fits from pictures and why things are done in the way they are can be hard to tell from the pics and write ups on here... Is there anyone reasonably local to Oxford that's done a PAS conversion that wouldn't mind letting me (and probably my Dad) have a look, and more than likely pick your brains as to how you'd do it differently if you were doing it again From what I can tell, the simplest/best plan is a defender column, 4 bolt PAS steering box of some variety (but Disco2 preferred as they are stronger, or late RRC as they are higher ratio?) mounted inboard, and either notch the crossmember or replace it with a thinner one to get the box in the right place. Along the right lines so far? Many thanks! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Along the right lines, very recent thread about mine somewhere, several other threads also here which a google search will find for you, but I shouldn't worry about being deadset on a D2 box, you'll start a few arguments claiming its stronger. I'm in rugby, not that close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 OK - great, thanks. I've read all of the threads I've seen on the conversions, not sure if I've seen yours though - I'll hunt it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Column & shaft & PAS box pretty much dictate where you bolt it to the chassis. I'd offer but my truck is buried under tonnes of junk at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 Looks like a defender / RRC steering box has been acquired for the princely sum of... (drumroll...) £7.50 from the for sale section on here. It's supposedly leaky, but worst case I can use it as an exchange for a replacement one from somewhere like paddocks, and it will do to start working out where things fit on the chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 is it 88 or 109? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Mine? 88" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Have you looked at Teri-ann and her expedition Rover website - she documents a number of conversions (all LHD, but good for ideas). G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Yeah - I've read loads on there, Nicks (snagger?) Land Rover Page, and about 20 different threads on here about how to do it... The trouble is, after a point you just add to your confusion - Defender / Disco 1/2 / RRC / P38 / Toyota steering boxes, inboard or outboard mounting, etc etc etc... At some point I have to say "I'm gonna do it like this" and make my mind up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 With an 88 then you'll have a standard chassis not military, this means you must mount a defender/disco steering box above the chassis rails, and chop off one side of the bolting lugs for the bracket. With a military chassis you don't need to, with the springs in the bottom hole there's loads of room for the defender drop arm to clear the spring. I had no problems with fitting the defender teering setup to my 109, apart from the custom drag link, which is a shortened Gwyn Lewis Sumobar. You've obviously got a TDi or V8 with means to mount the PAS pump already there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 OK - thanks. Things like this should become a bit clearer when I have a box in front of me and can offer it up against the chassis. I don't have the strengthening gussets on the spring hangers which some people look to have had to chop out for clearance. I've got a 2.5 petrol engine out of a defender in it - it's got the dual belt crank pulley, the defender it came out of previously had PAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impressionist Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Excuse the lack of introduction.... don't know if the attached will help at all. I'm thinking along the same lines at the moment and this is a pic I took at Billing - although this is a purpose made 88" leaf sprung Richards chassis using a Stage 1 front crossmember. The measurement from the centre of the upper shock mounting to the bottom left PAS mounting bolt was 9.125 inches. Perhaps you'll post you experience in fitting (particularly If you go for a standard LR/RR box). Cheers Russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Thanks for that - and welcome There's a few threads on here from people that have retrofitted PAS in a variety if different ways Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Exactly the same setup as on my project 109 civvy chassis, however its totally unrequired on a military chassis when springs are set on the lower hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=jon= Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Right, small update. I now have a defender pas box and a RRC one to offer up - ones got a straight drop arm, ones curved. For £15 the pair they were too cheap to pass up! I'm now on the hunt for a defender steering column and the lower part between the bottom of the column and the steering box if anyone has any kicking round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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