Lewis Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I want to put a six way multiplug/connector into the two wing looms on my 90 where the wings meet the bulkhead. I would prefer if they were weatherproof so they can survive the occasional wash. With this in mind I was considering AMP Superseal or Econoseal plugs, but the ones I've seen have a 1.5mm2 max cable size. The headlight feeds look a bit larger than that though so am I better off with a Molex type connector and risk the moisture ingress? Has anyone got any suggestions? And does anyone know the wire size of the headlight feeds? Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Econoseal connectors are rated for 10 Amps per contact and will accomodate up to 2.0mm2 cable (for 2.0mm2 cable, you would have to use the Yellow wire seal, instead of the more common Green one). Polevolt's prices are good, they also sell the Yellow seal - http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Econoseal_Connectors.html Up to Td5 Defenders, the main beam and dipped beam circuits have been on 2.0mm2 cable, from 2007 onwards, these have been in 1.5mm2 cable. The TD5 and Puma wing harnesses connect to the vehicle's main harness, using sealed 090 connectors, these use a 2.3mm wide terminal, compared to the Econoseal's 1.8mm (070) wide terminal. There are suppliers for these 090 connectors (I also have some of them), but these are supplied with terminals for 1.5mm2 cable, nobody stocks the 2.0mm2 terminals. You could use the Econoseal 250 series connectors, these have a 6.3mm wide terminal and are rated for 19A per contact. Simtek sell the 8-way male and female connectors - http://www.simtekuk.co.uk/product.php/250_series_male_8_way_connector/ http://www.simtekuk.co.uk/product.php/250_series_female_8_way_connector/ However, they only supply them with terminals and seals for 0.5 - 1.5mm2 cable (which they don't mention) Although I don't have the 8-way housings, I do have the terminals and seals for 2.0 - 3.0mm2 cable, as well as the body clip for the male connector (so that it can be clipped to a panel) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Brilliant info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Wow, thanks Paul! That's a great reply Do you recommend Econoseal connectors? Whichever connector I use I shall have to buy the appropriate crimp tool, and as they're very expensive I shall be using that particular connector forevermore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris113 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Having just rewired the 90 and used Econoseal connectors anywhere possible, I am very pleased with them. I purchased them as DIY kits and they can be a bit fiddly to construct but on the plus side it's a job you can do in front of the tv when it's raining! The main reason it proved fiddly was because I didn't know about the larger yellow seals and tried to use the smaller green seal on 2.0mm2 cable. Don't try to cut corners and use the ready-made Britpart ones, they are useless and don't work from new! As for a specialist crimp tool, most of the destructions on the internet simply used the cheap pressed-metal wire strippers/crimps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wow, thanks Paul! That's a great reply Do you recommend Econoseal connectors? Whichever connector I use I shall have to buy the appropriate crimp tool, and as they're very expensive I shall be using that particular connector forevermore Econoseal connectors are not bad at their job and very good value for money, compared to some of the more exotic connectors by Sumitomo, Yazaki, FCI, Delphi, etc... As Boris has said, use the correct coloured seal for the cable size that you're using. Also, the seal should be crimped (using an 'O' crimp) into the terminal, so that it is retained - Some instructions on the internet, show the seal being slid over the terminal after it's been crimped. Although this will work, it's not the correct way of doing it, and the seal could work loose. Also as Boris has said, you can make quite acceptable crimps using a cheap pressed metal crimping tool for uninsulated terminals, such as the TT70 from Polevolt, or the D1 from VWP. Although, if you're using lots of Econoseal connectors, then the TT351 ratcheting crimping tool from Polevolt is a good investment, as it will crimp the conductor and seal in one operation - http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/info_TT351.html This is a Durite tool, which others also sell, but Polevolt was the best price that I found for it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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