66gaza Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Trying to make my Rover camper quiter and was thinking about noise transmitted through the springs. I have seen some spring isolators for a Disco, they go inbetween the top of the spring and the spring seat and isolate the road noise from the vehicle. So do they work? has anyone taken them out of a car that had them or put them in a car that previously didn't and can give me a before and after real world comparison. Would expect to have to make some for a 110 rear so what would be the best material? Sorry about all the Q's just getting things off my chest. Gaza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I know someone who made his own isolaters from thin rubber matting and he claimed it made a dramatic difference to noise levels. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Attryde Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I have just removed them from my Disco as they were falling apart and I can safely say that on mine they made a big difference (so much so that I shall definately be getting new ones asap). HTH Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I have just removed them from my Disco as they were falling apart and I can safely say that on mine they made a big difference (so much so that I shall definately be getting new ones asap).HTH Pete. It is interesting Pete that you notice a difference on the Disco. I would have thought the separate rubber mounted body of the Disco would have insulated it from the coil spring squeeks and driveline vibrations, unlike the hard mounted body of Defender type LandRovers and monocoque cars. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Trying to make my Rover camper quiter and was thinking about noise transmitted through the springs. I have seen some spring isolators for a Disco, they go inbetween the top of the spring and the spring seat and isolate the road noise from the vehicle. So do they work? has anyone taken them out of a car that had them or put them in a car that previously didn't and can give me a before and after real world comparison. Would expect to have to make some for a 110 rear so what would be the best material? Sorry about all the Q's just getting things off my chest.Gaza Speak to Anton at OEC... he had some on his stand at Billing earlier this year. I think they were made by Superpro. OEC International Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I've used them on the 90s and they definitely make a difference especially if used front AND rear (the Disco is only supposed to have them on the rear springs). I have a set waiting to go on the front of the new 110 and am also looking for larger ones to go on the rear... Genuine 90/Discovery ones: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 and am also looking for larger ones to go on the rear... The Old Man Emu polyurethane trim packers should achieve the same thing and are available for larger 110 rear springs. IIRC they are about $10 for front and $12-13 for the larger rears in the US. I haven't seen them in UK, but I would think someone like Devon 4x4 could order and ship to you. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 The Old Man Emu polyurethane trim packers should achieve the same thing and are available for larger 110 rear springs. IIRC they are about $10 for front and $12-13 for the larger rears in the US. I haven't seen them in UK, but I would think someone like Devon 4x4 could order and ship to you. Cheers Steve Steve, That's the ones that OEC had on their stand... ! Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Hmm time for an email to OEC then Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66gaza Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Excellent, glad to hear it makes a noticeable difference. Those trim packers look just the job. Bogmonster can you update this thread when you get a reply? As I am taking the springs off soon to put a lift in it would be nice to do this at the same time. Thanks Everyone. Gaza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Bogmonster can you update this thread when you get a reply? As I am taking the springs off soon to put a lift in it would be nice to do this at the same time. Will do, sent them an email today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Got a reply and yes they are the Superpro spacer according to OEC: "Yes I can help. Although it is not recommend or advised because because the spacers can dislodge upon disloation in land rovers, the Toyota Landcruiser spring spacers are the same diamete as LR 110 springs and therefore are often used as a spacer. Therefore we can offer the following: 30mm superpro polyurethane spacer - £37.10 each + VAT (if applicable)" Ouch, maybe not then at that price time to wait until I see a rolled Blandcruiser somewhere and whip out the socket set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 30mm is pretty thick, the disco isolaters only add about 10mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Surley some old rubber (conveyor belt or similer) a battery, some jump leads and a length of wire would have a pair of these fashioned in no time? Cheap too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Surley some old rubber (conveyor belt or similer) a battery, some jump leads and a length of wire would have a pair of these fashioned in no time?Cheap too Can you elaborate on the technique of cutting conveyor belting with the above equipment ? sounds interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I should imagine you bend the length of wire into the shape you want the conveyor belt, connect it to the jump leads and battery momentarily which then gets VF hot VF quickly, cuts through the belt and there you have your shaped bit of belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Stephen, try Devon 4x4 for the Old Man Emu 10mm spacers, going by US price they are a lot cheaper, even doing the usual pound for dollar they should be 13 pounds or less. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 no sign of such a thing on the D4x4 website Steve - got a link to them anywhere? are they polyurethane or rubber or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I should imagine you bend the length of wire into the shape you want the conveyor belt, connect it to the jump leads and battery momentarily which then gets VF hot VF quickly, cuts through the belt and there you have your shaped bit of belt Yep thats what i had in mind although if the belt had heavy duty webbing in it it could prove tricky although if you could melt the rubber i dare say you you could use a jigsaw or similer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 no sign of such a thing on the D4x4 website Steve - got a link to them anywhere? are they polyurethane or rubber or what? They are polyurethane and 10mm in height. Drop Liz an email on address on website and ask to price them They are direct distributors for OME, so will be able to source them. One part no. is OME80PF10 but not sure if that's smaller or larger version. OME call them trim packers. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66gaza Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Trying to make my Rover camper quiter and was thinking about noise transmitted through the springs. I have seen some spring isolators for a Disco, they go inbetween the top of the spring and the spring seat and isolate the road noise from the vehicle. So do they work? has anyone taken them out of a car that had them or put them in a car that previously didn't and can give me a before and after real world comparison. Would expect to have to make some for a 110 rear so what would be the best material? Sorry about all the Q's just getting things off my chest.Gaza This old post came up doing a search for something else, as I had made my isolators I thought a pic was in order. Can't really tell yet if they have made a difference as I have a new engine in and I have put sound proofing on the bulkhead I didn't have before. Anyway they were real easy to make I just quickly cut them out of a piece of conveyor belt with a jigsaw. They are a bit rough & ready but thats me. Gaza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruntus Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hi Gaza, Thanks for the update and the pic. I was interested in this thread and then forgot all about it. Used a jigsaw instead of the battery and wire technique then............... Cheers G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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