The Badger Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hello forum land I am new to this land so hello to all, this forum has been a great help as i have recently became addicted to landrover (my girlfriend is having issues, well more than usual) and have been sneeking in on all your advive posted. So, recently brought a Puma and since then been bolting on. Im fine with bolts, but electrics are a bit of a mystery to me so here comes some questions: • Bolted on an ARB winch bumper, this has additional indicators built into the bumpers bit, now can I wire these directly to the existing indicators? • lightforce lights bolted on too, got the loom off devon 4x4, would it be best to run this additional cable along the chassy to the battery box, and wire up directly? (just a general question as it sounds logical, right?) • warn 9.5xpi / dual battery system, got my head arround the duel battery system (ish), adding the winch in, question is do I place the winch positive directly to the battery or the other side of the battery isolator? My understanding is that the battery isolotor goes inbetween the battery and the main engine feed, right? so you isolate it when using the winch, right? Or am I stupid (this is proberally true, but at least you can't see the look on my face when breaks) On a more, what has been bolted on: Body Sliders, Tree / rock sliders, rear tanks guard, stearing guard, lights guards front and back, spare wheel carrier, rear step bumper (the mantec one fits real nice with the rear step), chequer plate bonnet, rear chassy cross member, lockable cubby, full size patriot roof rack. i have more bits to add, CB, mantec snorkle (seen the post on that one, next weekend it is), 4 spots on the roof + more stuff (as i said, gone a bit crazy) Anyhow, if anyone has so advice it would help, and I can let you know about the puma (only one thing has broke so far the bonnet pull which was swiftly fixed by Araldite) Right fo now that's it. Any takers on the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tris Cocks Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Welcome. With regards to your indicators on the winch bumper i would connect them directly in parallel with your existing indicators as this will make sure that if one lamp blows then the other will still work as apposed to series where you cut one wire and join it to both of the wires comming off the indicators. when i added spots to the front of my landy i ran a wire from the positive on the battery box to a relay and had a which i mounted on the dash which connected to the coil on the relay. as for the winch i would have a cable coming from the battery into the isolator and then the cable from the winch connected to the isolator and the negative to either a good earth in the engine bay or run another negative to the battery. i think (but i might be wrong) than most people when using the winch have the engine on so that the alternator is producing more current so that the winch has more power, and the isolator isolates the winch when it is not in use, rather than the starter. Hope this helps Tris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Welcome to the board and to Land Rovers Which Puma did you get? 90 or 110; hard top or station wagon... Lets see some pics Can't help on the wiring. Not hacked mine yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hey Tris, thanks for the info, will have a look later on this week. Welcome to the board and to Land RoversWhich Puma did you get? 90 or 110; hard top or station wagon... Lets see some pics Can't help on the wiring. Not hacked mine yet. Got me a 90 CSW, attached is a picture or two. (it's in the next reply) As instead I uploaded the twin battery tray and weird battery connector that comes attached to the standard battery, doese anyone know if I put the isolator in-between the main power line or between the battery and the weird black box? As you can see I have the solonoid / isolator in place just making up the cable and connectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Welcome to the board and to Land RoversWhich Puma did you get? 90 or 110; hard top or station wagon... Lets see some pics Can't help on the wiring. Not hacked mine yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonost24 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Sorry, but whats a puma , apart from a big cat?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 It's the latest Defender with the Transit engine Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonost24 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Aahhhh!!!! A nickname then, like the Ford Focus ST - ASBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I am new to this land so hello to all, this forum has been a great help as i have recently became addicted to landrover (my girlfriend is having issues, well more than usual) and have been sneeking in on all your advive posted. So, recently brought a Puma and since then been bolting on. Im fine with bolts, but electrics are a bit of a mystery to me so here comes some questions: • Bolted on an ARB winch bumper, this has additional indicators built into the bumpers bit, now can I wire these directly to the existing indicators? I would connect to the existing front indicators via a relay for each side, otherwise the existing indicator unit might decide it has a trailer fitted & show the indicator light on the dash when you use the indicators. try it & see what happens, if the trailer light shows use relays. • lightforce lights bolted on too, got the loom off devon 4x4, would it be best to run this additional cable along the chassy to the battery box, and wire up directly? (just a general question as it sounds logical, right?) that's sounds fine, just make sure it's well secured with cable ties & routed away from sharp edges & heat sources. • warn 9.5xpi / dual battery system, got my head arround the duel battery system (ish), adding the winch in, question is do I place the winch positive directly to the battery or the other side of the battery isolator? My understanding is that the battery isolotor goes inbetween the battery and the main engine feed, right? so you isolate it when using the winch, right? Or am I stupid (this is proberally true, but at least you can't see the look on my face when breaks) Connect the winch positive lead on one side of the isolator & the battery positive to the other side, if you want to isloate the engine use a isolation switch that will allow the alarm system/clock/radio to keep their settings by having a un-interuppted power source. On a more, what has been bolted on: Body Sliders, Tree / rock sliders, rear tanks guard, stearing guard, lights guards front and back, spare wheel carrier, rear step bumper (the mantec one fits real nice with the rear step), chequer plate bonnet, rear chassy cross member, lockable cubby, full size patriot roof rack. i have more bits to add, CB, mantec snorkle (seen the post on that one, next weekend it is), 4 spots on the roof + more stuff (as i said, gone a bit crazy) Anyhow, if anyone has so advice it would help, and I can let you know about the puma (only one thing has broke so far the bonnet pull which was swiftly fixed by Araldite) Right fo now that's it. Any takers on the above? hope my replies help looks a smart truck happy LR owning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draper40 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Can't really help but it looks like a lovely landie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mortus Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 You have spent a lot of money i wish i had money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 You have spent a lot of money i wish i had money yeah it has cost a bit, year's ago (like 12) I had a series, it was a load of fun but I was too young / spent all my money on girls / booze etc no time to keep it going so I gave it to a friend of mine. He sold it, it has gone Anyhow, now I have time (and some cash) to fully go for it and have some fun, with emmissions laws it kinda made sense to get a new one as it will last longer (I hope) and has better emmissions (no im not a vegan), and my thinking was I getting something to last for long time. When I have more space im going for a re-build of an older one... anyhow, thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 • Bolted on an ARB winch bumper, this has additional indicators built into the bumpers bit, now can I wire these directly to the existing indicators? I would connect to the existing front indicators via a relay for each side, otherwise the existing indicator unit might decide it has a trailer fitted & show the indicator light on the dash when you use the indicators. try it & see what happens, if the trailer light shows use relays. thanks western, just thought I would run this by, a friend of mine said that I could go directly to the existing indicator line, and then up the indicator fuse to 7.5 amps, and the hazards to 15amps? what you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need4speed Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Aahhhh!!!! A nickname then, like the Ford Focus ST - ASBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 hey it's like the apple panther / tiger / leopard A badger riding a Puma is a bit weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 A badger riding a Puma is a bit weird... Not an image I want to savour Good looking truck by the way. Have you got any overlanding planned? Would be a fun drive to the alps in that - just need a roof tent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mortus Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 • Bolted on an ARB winch bumper, this has additional indicators built into the bumpers bit, now can I wire these directly to the existing indicators?I would connect to the existing front indicators via a relay for each side, otherwise the existing indicator unit might decide it has a trailer fitted & show the indicator light on the dash when you use the indicators. try it & see what happens, if the trailer light shows use relays. thanks western, just thought I would run this by, a friend of mine said that I could go directly to the existing indicator line, and then up the indicator fuse to 7.5 amps, and the hazards to 15amps? what you think? I think what your friend has said is correct, and it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 Not an image I want to savour Good looking truck by the way. Have you got any overlanding planned? Would be a fun drive to the alps in that - just need a roof tent yeah a roof tent is on the list, (I have a tent though) I think this summer im gonna head out that way, there are a load of organised ones that frogisland do but they seem so expensive... gonna do a few weekends in wales to iron out all the bit's that need looking at. Just been here (see image) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Bolted on an ARB winch bumper, this has additional indicators built into the bumpers bit, now can I wire these directly to the existing indicators?I would connect to the existing front indicators via a relay for each side, otherwise the existing indicator unit might decide it has a trailer fitted & show the indicator light on the dash when you use the indicators. try it & see what happens, if the trailer light shows use relays. thanks western, just thought I would run this by, a friend of mine said that I could go directly to the existing indicator line, and then up the indicator fuse to 7.5 amps, and the hazards to 15amps? what you think? mortus --- I think what your friend has said is correct, and it will work. worth a try, I know when I added additional rear indicators above the back small windows, my traler flasher light was on with no trailer attached, 2 relays in the circuit stopped that game & it works as it's meant too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 worth a try, I know when I added additional rear indicators above the back small windows Don't mean to hijack, but did you use standard rear indicators ? Been considering something similar but didn't really like the look of originals in that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Yep, 2 indicators & 2 brake/tail lights, I cut the holes for the bulb holder part to pass through then ran the wires along the top of the door/inner gutter & down to the right rear corner & connected via relays on the indicators into the existing rear lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Thanks for that Ralph. Gives me a better idea than the photoshop I did! I reckon it'd increase visibility over the standard tail lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 That looks very peaceful Badger, where is it ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Thanks for that Ralph. Gives me a better idea than the photoshop I did! I reckon it'd increase visibility over the standard tail lights. the upper lights are usefull when a trailer is attached or towing another vehicle as following traffic gets to find out your intentions a bit earlier. not had a problem with poor rear lighting on my 110 since I've owned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 That looks very peaceful Badger, where is it ?Mo It's in the land of 4x4, New Zealand. That particular shot is on the Routeburn track, it's a 3 day hike. There are sooooooo many amazing off road routes throughout the country it really amazing, you could go for a long while and not bump into any other traffic... (even on the main roads) Well I say main roads, two lanes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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