wkw90 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 I dont care how many problems crop up ill never put a TDI in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Yes, that timing cover is toast .................. although I have seen worse and you could probably get the oil pump to work ok ish, it will never be 'right'........ Judging by the scoring on the LHS gear, and also the scoring that you posted on the crankshaft, it would seem that this engine has been poorly maintained at some point in its life. Unfortunately Rover V8's take exception to this and always come back and bite !.................. Post up a picture of the oil pump cover ................ I bet that looks a treat as well ........................ also check the condition of the camshaft bearings. Definitely something nasty has been allowed to circulate in the oil system. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Yes, that timing cover is toast .................. although I have seen worse and you could probably get the oil pump to work ok ish, it will never be 'right'........Judging by the scoring on the LHS gear, and also the scoring that you posted on the crankshaft, it would seem that this engine has been poorly maintained at some point in its life. Unfortunately Rover V8's take exception to this and always come back and bite !.................. Post up a picture of the oil pump cover ................ I bet that looks a treat as well ........................ also check the condition of the camshaft bearings. Definitely something nasty has been allowed to circulate in the oil system. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 The camshaft bearings look ok . Can they be changed ? and how bad a job would it be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 The best way to have it done is to take to a machine shop, have them pressed in then line bored. Not much £s, and you'll get the block chemically cleaned at the same time. Re the Pump base stripped and cleaned with some work a la "Figure of 8 Cut Back" that will be cleanable and reuseable I think You can get DIY bearings to 'hammer in' - I wouldn't Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Cam bearings are a swine to fit yourself. They have a split in so it looks like they are a doddle to fit, but that's not the case. I had mine replaced and line-bored by Turner Engineering - not a lot of money and you know they are right. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Most cam bearings for the V8 block are supplied as finished to size, so line boring is not and issue unless you are blueprinting the engine. However, as Les correctly say’s, they are a complete barsteward to fit………….. the oil holes have to line up perfectly and you need some very long brass drifts ………….. it took me 4 evenings to fit mine ………. It really is a slow laborious mind numbing job………… That pump housing will clean up OK……….. but you must ensure that it is completely flat ……………. If you have not done the glass and figure of eight method before, then I suggest you use a piece of scrap ally block to practice with………. It is just tooo easy to end up with a slight curve on what should be a dead flat surface………. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 If you can wait for a few days (I am seriously maxed out at work - have a 4.6 to fund), I'll have a look at the covers I've got kicking about and see if there are any better than yours. Can't guarantee anything though but I know I've got two in the shed and one on a 3.5 I won't be using. I assume you need exactly the same as you've got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 I am thinking of getting a short block from RPI £1495 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 No... no.... no... no..... NO! Maybe buy bits, never buy assemblies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 ... and you thought Nige told you off before! Wait until he rocks up this time.... If its a project (I got my last guess wrong re the crank), then the joy is in learning something as you go along. I bought a wreck of a Rangie once with a short block in the back.. My mind nagged me about should I haul it apart before building the rest up but I ignored the voice... It ran fine for a while but then melted a piston because the muppet that built it lined all the gaps in the piston rings up. There is loads of info online about assessing and assembling. The definitive thread is in the tech archive but wether you choose to work to that level is up to you. There are also loads of places which sell OE bits cheap - Rimmer, Real Steel, RPi etc. Shop around. Take your heads, block and crank to a machine shop and get them to give you a total price for all of the work. All up, I think my rebore, new cam brgs, skimmed heads, new guides & machined seats came to less than £400 (although the more I think about that, I'm not sure). That still leaves you cash in the bank for the new pistons, 3.9 cam etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Building it does not worry me, its the cost so much of it is f***ed , plus i work shifts there never seems to be time to sort things out . sometimes it just makes sense to have someone else do it Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Building it does not worry me, its the cost so much of it is f***ed , plus i work shifts there never seems to be time to sort things out . sometimes it just makes sense to have someone else do it Paul Sorry Dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Ok OK OK Thanks for PM fatboy you win ill do it myself . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Righto... and when I get a chance, I'll check for a front cover in t'shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Righto... and when I get a chance, I'll check for a front cover in t'shop Very good of you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I am thinking of getting a short block from RPI £1495 . You'll get a good Tdi for a 1/3 of that complete chug, chug Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 You'll get a good Tdi for a 1/3 of that complete chug, chug Mo You could have a nice roof for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Thanks Paul, but I have good roof already and the stuff in your front room will get wet if you've got no roof Shall I come round in the week and we can strap it to the roof and take it down the tip, then ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Thanks Paul, but I have good roof already and the stuff in your front room will get wet if you've got no roof Shall I come round in the week and we can strap it to the roof and take it down the tip, then ? Mo Are you talking about the whole land rover or just the roof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Your choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Its doing a good job of keeping all the rest dry at the minute . But thanks for the offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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