love2learn Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 im an absolute novice whilst this post may appear foolish i need to learn so ...do i really need a torque wrench to tighten the sump nut when i do an oil and filter change? also im having trouble removing my old diesel filter too its as stiff as a board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcowz Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 im an absolute novice whilst this post may appear foolish i need to learn so ...do i really need a torque wrench to tighten the sump nut when i do an oil and filter change?also im having trouble removing my old diesel filter too its as stiff as a board? Personally... I would use a torque wrench to tighen up a jam jar lid if the manual told me to, but I'm sure a lot of people on here with more experience would just do it up "so tight". Regarding the oil filter. If a filter wrench is not doing the job then you can always knock a screwdriver through it and remove it that way. Remember to smear some new oil on the seal when you fit the new filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_SP Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Best thing i've found for removing and refitting the oil filter is a cheap (costs a couple of quid) silicone oven glove/mit thing like this: Allows you to get a good grip on it and you can tighten/loosen without slipping. If that fails when removing the filter, a screwdriver stabbed through the side of filter should do the trick. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 There is a crushable copper washer on most sump plugs. Fit a new washer and do the plug up finger tight so that you can see that the washer is trapped between the plug and the boss welded into the sump. Now, tighten the nut half a turn so that you can feel the washer deforming under the plug head, job done. I would describe the amount of force required to tighten the nut as 'one grunt', i.e., just enough force to make you strain a little against the spanner. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I always look at torque figures and think that they're given for a reason!! Use a torque wrench where possible... and where necessary, fit new compressible washers, etc as it makes the job complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2learn Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 well thats exactly what i needed thanx peeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 lovetolearn, Getting one of these will save you worrying about torque settings and copper washers forever HTH Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 well thats exactly what i needed thanx peeps I changed the injector harness on my td5 today and had to take the rocker cover off. To put it back on the bolts are sopposed to be tightened to 9 lbs torque but my torque wrench dont go under 10 lbs so I winged it. Hope its all good we will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 oap: tightening them to 10 wouldnt have caused a problem imo. Had you done it by hand though its very easy to put 25lbs into them and strip the threads! I think its sometimes worth looking at the figures but i rarely actually use a torque wrench to do things up, unless its critical, like a cylinder head or main bearing caps. you start to get a feel for how tight things should be by looking at the size of the fixing and what its holding on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oap Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 oap: tightening them to 10 wouldnt have caused a problem imo. Had you done it by hand though its very easy to put 25lbs into them and strip the threads!I think its sometimes worth looking at the figures but i rarely actually use a torque wrench to do things up, unless its critical, like a cylinder head or main bearing caps. you start to get a feel for how tight things should be by looking at the size of the fixing and what its holding on... I done it by feel and I think its ok. I was afraid of striping the threads so I tested 10 lbs on my daughters bicycle and broke the bolt on the saddle. Better that than my landrover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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