grumbleweed Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Right - just taken off the airbags in anticipation of the springs that will hopefully arrive tomorrow. REALLY easy to do. You need two jacks, the LR one to raise and lower the axle, and a jack on the chassis. Big flathead screwdriver to remove clips top and bottoms, two each end. Small things they are and are easily removed. Next remove pipework from unit - i cut mine as i am not replacing the springs with bags- see rave manual on how to remove pipes without marmalising the pipe. A small cut will introduce a nice hiss to de-pressurise the bag. DONT use snips to do this as it will go off like a noisy thing!! Once bag is depressurised, using the axle jack, lower the axle about 4-5 inches. This will give you enough room to simply pull the unit out of the mountings!! It's the same for front and rear. The front is a little more tricky, as the unit is taller, and the brakepipes are in the way a little. I had to drop the axle another couple of inches to get it out. After thats all done - go under drivers seat - remove 30 amp fuse and relays. Remove wheels Jack up chassis Rear Airbag Rear Airbag removed Other side rear Airbag removed Rear airbag stretched out to see damage - LOTS of cracks around base Front de-pressurised Front removed - see different bumpstops as fitted to EAS cars All 4 bags - note the difference in the front and rear units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 That's a P38 isn't it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 Nope - a 1993 LSE All the bits i have removed are now on ebay. Compressor, valve block, airbags, relays ECU etc http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120612659569&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I need the little arm that connects the height sensor to the radius arm. I'll keep an eye on the auction. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Are you changing shock absorbers too? Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 The shocks are pretty new and seem ok on the road. Apparently been on the car under a year so will keep em on till they go pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Just curious. I did the same conversion a while back; I bottled out of having loose springs on the front and got shock absorbers to go up the middle of the springs. Having thought about it (assuming you fit retainers) I can't see you'd have a problem . Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 Just curious. I did the same conversion a while back; I bottled out of having loose springs on the front and got shock absorbers to go up the middle of the springs. Having thought about it (assuming you fit retainers) I can't see you'd have a problem . Nigel I am going to clip the top of the spring onto the mounting in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 REALLY easy to do. You need two jacks, the LR one to raise and lower the axle, and a jack on the chassis. Please tell me you had axle stands under the chassis too...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 Of course! not climbing under 2.5 tonnes of metal on a halfords jack on its own!!!!!!! Put the stand under the rear cross member - better stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cackshifter Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I am going to clip the top of the spring onto the mounting in any case. That's a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vougese39 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 you will need to replace the shocks as they are not valved for coil springs. on a lse riding on coils very poor ride compared to air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted August 31, 2010 Author Share Posted August 31, 2010 you will need to replace the shocks as they are not valved for coil springs. on a lse riding on coils very poor ride compared to air disagree- ride is much nicer in my opinion. Shocks are normal coil spec ones - wrong for the EAS so quite handy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 disagree- ride is much nicer in my opinion. Shocks are normal coil spec ones - wrong for the EAS so quite handy!! You're comparing worn out (hard) air springs with fresh coil springs - it ought to be better! Having the wrong dampers on won't have been helping at all either. I've never really compared a properly sorted EAS car with a properly sorted coiler (when I've driven them back to back one has always been tired), but I'd expect the coiler to have a softer ride (more the fabled Range Rover 'magic carpet') and the EAS vehicle to have significantly better handling. Assuming standard springs, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range Rover Blues Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 My LSE handles very nicely, but you are right any uprated shocks are not valved right for EAS and can make the ride crashy on a bad road. I have Arnott GIII sprinsg so I need to use longer shocks to get the best out of them. The longest shock I can fit is plus 2" on the back without the shock bottoming out when the system deflates. Apparently Bilstein can make bespoke shocks for my car but it costs £80 a shock for the modifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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