Hybrid_From_Hell Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Borrow or buy a known good starter They die - end of - Don't overcomplicate with disection - swapping lumps over is far quicker Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Am just waiting for a replacement. The only problem is the 'known good' part! I've got an offer of one which has been sat on an engine for the past 5 years without being started. I've also got a possible offer of one which was working well - it's on a series which is about to be broken, but would have to wait a few weeks for this one. I expected to see an obvious fault with it- - but at the end of the day there may be nothing wrong with it, it might be something else wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 You may be able to see an obvious if you pointed a multimeter at it, but then without knowing what to look for you could just be wasting more time -you have checked the servicable bits, the bearing and the brushes and found no fault, it must be the windings burnt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 My worry is that the starter motor may actually be fine and it may be something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'm not guaranteeing anything, but from how you have described your tests I fail to see how it can be anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 like a sweet grilled honey on toast kinda smell Something you want to confess here m8 Sotal - buy a new/refurb starter motor - one that's 5 years old is bound to be/ likely to be a bit dodgy, or perhaps will work for only a short while. Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Something you want to confess here m8 BAH, spent ages trying to think what it smelt like, then forgot to include the word BURNT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Just to add - replace the starter with a known or guaranteed one. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 As above Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Just to point out - Your current starter is honey toast-smelling, and is still junk evidentally. Don't buy one that's 5-years old and is worth 50p from the pound shop and is more than likely to fail in a short while. Buy a new or refurb one that has a genuine guarantee on it, Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 As above (in case you missed it) Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Les, don't you think he should buy a new or refurbed one, that doesnt smell of burnt honey toast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 No - I think he should ignore advice to replace it with a known good one and keep larking around with the 10lb of junk he currently has Les :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'm not sure if Les means I should buy a new one or just go with a 5 year old one? His messages seem a little cryptic - if only he could be clearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I think your old one is fine and it's actually something else Speak to Bowie69 and do the smell test. This sort of thing is beyond my technology Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Unfortunately I don't like Honey, so don't know what it smells like. I do have a dog called Honey, but it didn't smell like her either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 throw it away and get a good one. Les. Sotal - buy a new/refurb starter motor Les replace the starter with a known or guaranteed one. Les. Buy a new or refurb one Les I think your old one is fine and it's actually something else Les ok, i think we understood them..... No - I think he should ignore advice to replace it with a known good one Les :) ok, make your mind up!!!! ;) i think old age is catching up with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcock Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 It only does the free spinning bit when you try and short it, if you turn with the key it either tries to turn the engine very slowly, or it it just clicks and you have to release and turn again. Probably about 60% tries to turn / 40% just clicks When you say it only spins when you short it which terminals are you shorting? if its the two large terminals it will only spin as its a pre-engaged starter, you need to connect from the main lead to the little terminal to engage the solenoid. the 2a would have had an inertia starter fitted originally with a remote solenoid. it may be a silly question but is the main supply direct to the starter from the battery or still fed via the original solenoid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotal Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 The original 2a engine had exactly the same starter setup with the solenoid mounted on the starter motor. It was a 1970 engine and all tallied up age wise etc. I've only ever seen the remote solenoids on the petrol engines. We swapped the bulkhead at the same time though so it's exactly as it was in the series 3. Got the lovely job of swapping the bulkhead back to the 2a in the future! It's all patched up now just needs painting along with the bonnet - been putting it off partly due to the amount of work and partly due to the fact I don't have any doors for the 2a and don't know if the S3 doors will fit with the wrong hinges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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