landypc Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Dear all, I have a 2004/5 Td5 XS 90. 40k on the clock. I’ve had it from new. Symptoms: Unable to engage forward or reverse gears. Intermittent problem. It doesn’t matter if the engines hot or cold or if the engines running. I pump the clutch pedal, nothing. I try slipping the clutch and trying to engage a gear, nothing. There is fluid in the master cylinder, there are no leaks from the master cylinder or slave cylinder. The clutch pedal doesn’t seem to have a lot of travel before the biting point starts and the pedal travel itself has always been from new very short. When I do eventually get the lever to engage the gears, it is very clunky and graunchy as if I’m changing gear without the use of the clutch. It got so bad the other day I was left with no option but to coast down hill from a set of traffic lights and hope I could find a parking space that I could coast into! I’ve spoken to the local LR dealer here in Guernsey, they seem to think it’s clutch not gearbox. They said something about the tension springs in the friction plate being loose or fallen out and getting trapped. If that were the case and 1 or more were loose or indeed fallen out, surely a rattle would be heard and more to the point if they had fallen out then they would fall to the lowest point I.E. into the bottom of the bell housing. Has anyone had a similar or same problem? Any ideas Cheers landypc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimaquinas Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 hi i nave just had the same on my 300 tdi and also my mate had it with his td5 we changed the slave cylinders on both and now they are good again hth brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landypc Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 minimaquinas what mileage and were there signs of fluid leaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Not the same symptoms as mine.... but I gave up looking at the slave as there was no sign of any leaks. Eventually changed it and it sorted the problems. Don't expect to see any fluid leaking from the slave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimaquinas Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 the milage on td5 is about 80 000 kms and the tdi about 111 000 kms there was no sign of leaks on tdi but the td5 was dripping from the bell housing dont put a cheap slave cylinder on or you will be doing it again soon hth brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I got a good one and it was only about £25ish worth every penny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimaquinas Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 mine was about 30 quid with postage to spain from uk the 1s on ebay for 12.00 quid dont last long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landypc Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Dear all, Well I'm going for a genuine Land Rover slave cylinder. About £30 - £35 with the shipping to Guernsey, Channel Islands. If it cures it and from what you guys have said,it looks like it might, then I thank you. If it doesn't then I've already eliminated that possible problem. I spoke with my mechanic (no I'm not a luvy but I no longer have the kit to do these jobs or the size of workshop needed) he thinks it might be the tension springs on the pressure plate acting up but goes along with your suggestions aswell. Problem is the dual mass flywheel. I've heard that if your going as far as changing the clutch then do the flywheel at the same time. F@~k me (not while there's dogs on the street) what happened to the days when you bought a clutch, pulled a box out, used an aligning tool when you fitted it and put the box back. Mind you I am an old fart now so time do change! Oh and whats this all about the clutch release lever sodding up and having to weld something to it because a rod pusshes through it! landypc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Td5 friction plate doesn't have any springs http://www.lrspareparts.com/eshop/clutch-plate-driven.html that's taken care of by the dual mass flywheel which has damper springs between the 2 sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Landypc, You may want to have a look here: http://www.rakeway.co.uk/page28.html John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Landypc, You may want to have a look here: http://www.rakeway.co.uk/page28.html John I'll vouch for rakeway too, really helpfull guys. Mav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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