jad Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Im looking into buying remote take off plates, covers, -10AN/JIC aeroquip hoses, a filter mount with 3/4" oil filter and anything else I need. On Ebay and other shops the prices of such things vary massively. My question is, is it worth spending more on ones from the UK like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-oil-sandwich-plate-kit-TVC50-/190349051156?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c51b00514 or is one from china like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminum-Oil-Filter-Cooler-Sandwich-Plate-Adapter-Kit-M20x1-5-3-4-16-UNF-silver-/360444286608?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53ec275690 going to be just as well made even though its under half the price? I priced up the parts I need from this website http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/index.asp in the UK and it came to about £250. I can get the same parts just rebranded on ebay for a little less. What do people think? Are there any specific companies in the UK that people use for this kind of thing? Cheers Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hi Dude! Stay away from the cheap Chinese stuff, it really is terrible, learnt that lesson with some oil gear I bought for an old Peugeot! try motorsporttools on ebay or here... http://www.motorsport-tools.com/, I've got alot of my stuff from them, good service and reasonably priced. What's the relocation stuff for? cooler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 You'll only find out the cheap stuff is carp when it is too late and the oil light is on. Think Automotive would be a good place to shop if you want to know the providence of what you are buying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hey up. Its for the filter otherwise it will be in my chassis! Im going to use the standard water/oil cooler which I can relocate from the engine mount to the remote mount to give some more room as well. Will have a look around cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam001 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Ah got you! Mocal and Aeroquip, you can't go too wrong with their fitting and adapters. Mocal falls down with their coolers (welds are plopplops!) so I tend to swear by aeroquip. (loving the autocorrect on the forum there!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Anyone know of any take off oil plates and remote filter mounts with 5/8" BSP tapped holes? They all seem to have 1/2"BSP ports with adaptors to put them up in size. The oil ways from the pump are about 15-16mm so wanted to keep that diameter rather than going down to 12mm at the connections..... Strikes me as a fairly pointless restriction in the system! Cheers Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You can even see the difference in quality in the pictures, I'd stay away from the China one, I wouldn't want to risk swarf coming off that thing and going past the filter into the engine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I wouldn't worry about going down to 1/2". The flow rate isn't significant enough for the drop in diameter to affect it. Also call into your local hydraulics place. They'll normally have all the hose/adapters/fittings etc that you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 If I shouldn't worry about going down to 1/2 inch then is it ok the make the whole system out of half inch pipe ports etc? cheers Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Good question. I'd suspect that the flow rate won't change (positive displacement pump), however, if there's a significant pressure drop across the pipework then the oil pump will be starved of oil. Then again, the largest pressure drop will be across the filter. Hmmm - anyone with more knowledge about these engines care to comment? If it was mine, I'd do it. But stay away from sharp bends - use swept bends in fittings etc. When it's all complete, fit an oil pressure gauge and check that it's normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I'd vote for Mocal bits from Think Automotive, they're not insane money and if there's any issue you can phone them up and shout at them (not that you would need to, they are nice guys and very helpful), unlike eBay. For the hose & fittings, if you're not worried about colour-co-ordinated stainless braided etc. then just get hoses & fittings from your local Hyphose / Pirtek / Ye Olde Hydraulics Shoppe, engine pressure is low enough you can use cheap multi-purpose hose and barbed fittings with jubilee clips. I don't know what sort of oil system the Lexus lump you're using has - the Rover is high-flow-low-pressure (and 1/2" works fine, BTW) but I'd expect the Lexus to be higher pressure and lower flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 A la google, oil pressure when cold can go up to 120psi and at hot idle down to 30psi. Most people seem to recommend -10AN lines for the 1uz just cant find any mounts with greater than 1/2BSP or NPT. Have fount one that has enough material to be redrilled and tapped though..... Cheers Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zardos Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Hey up. Its for the filter otherwise it will be in my chassis! Im going to use the standard water/oil cooler which I can relocate from the engine mount to the remote mount to give some more room as well. Will have a look around cheers You know that a sandwich plate by itself will actually give you less room (as they are designed to be sandwiched in between the filter and oil filter mount) To make more room you will need a top plate like http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/take-off-plate-side-feed-with-various-thread-versions-570-top01-1024-p.asp or http://www.speedflowshop.co.uk/take-off-cover---tvc150-1385-p.asp When I did a remote oil filter so it would not hit the diff I used the same thing but from Think Automotive (they were very helpful in selecting the right parts and they are local enough for me to visit. They also made a minor mod to a part on their lathe while I waited to make it fit my need) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yeah I know. Am going to use one of those. I have taken the oil cooler off the engine as well which will gives me more room and will put it onto the remote filter mount. Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Most people seem to recommend -10AN lines for the 1uz Is that just because they're all Americans and hence never heard of BSP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Mostly Aussies I think... I cant find anyone using smaller than -10 or 5/8s for oil lines. They use -8 1/2" for the fuel lines I can go up in size on thinkauto to M18x1.5 or M22x1.5 ports. Doesnt anyone know what internal diameter of a male connection with these threads would be? Cheers Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Fittings are made to standards, you should be able to look all of them up. How much fuel arre you using that you need 5/8" ID fuel lines??? This just smacks of Yank-style "big, bigger, best" one-upmanship with the omission of any real thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 5/8" oil lines. 1/2" fuel lines I have tried looking for the fittings but haven't been able to find them. Will have a proper look after work! Jad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 although lots of people say 8mm is fine too and im not going bigger just for the sake of paying more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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