The Badger Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The clutch started to slip, so gotten it all out and the flywheel is pretty badly fractured in a few places and the the clutch cover plate, friction plate was cracked all the way across. Got a new clutch but what Flywheel to use. M&D say their FlyWheel is modified, but that is only to used the now defunct 250mm clutch they used to sell. So any advice on what FlyWheel to fit? And a thanks in advance to helping fill my head with more random Landrover knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 a pic of the flywheel would help, to see if a 300 tdi flywheel would fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 have you tried the engine manufacturers , as M&D had to start with something to modify ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Some images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 it is different from a 300 flywheel, but the bolt pattern looks the same. Maybe a 300 tdi flywheel with a 130 clutch set is a start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Im gonna take it off and do some measuring to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 130 clutch is a waste of time on a TGV (it will slip, or shatter, or in my case, both), but I'm fairly certain the 300tdi flywheel could be used. I've got some notes somewhere on the mods done to the standard supplied flywheel - as far as I recall it was just to put a timing mark in the right place in the bellhousing, and to mount a different clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 BTW the clutch was probably slipping because the centre boss was fouling the end of the crank. When the M&D super duper heavy duty clutch was put in my Ibex, we compared the disk to a 130 part, and the cast boss sticks out much further, so we ground it back. It won't stop the spring plate clouting the bolt heads when the wear gets bad enough, but hopefully it won't get to that point as quickly if the clutch doesn't slip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ah, I just PMed you... Then hit refresh and here you go, thanks again, ha perfect timing. I went and brought a paddle clutch from Ashcrofts (yes it's twice the price but would like to see how long this one lasts) Yeah the fist clutch shattered, then this one has cracked.Should I mark it up for the timing before taking the flywheel off, never changed a flywheel before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 You cant get it wrong, as it is doweled ( on a 300 at least). Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Is it an option to have this flywheel resurfaced/skimmed or are the cracks too bad? If it can be resurfaced perhaps they can add a step into it so the clutch cover sits like halve a millimeter lower than the surface of the flywheel. If it hasn't got a step already that is. I have to say that clutch cover looks really bad, cracked all the way through! The flywheel doesn't look too bad on the photo, but it's a photo, so could be way worse in real life. I just changed my flywheel/clutch and my flywheel was full of surface cracks and blue/black spots. Clutch cover looked like new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSD Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Just had a quick check of the parts catalogues, both 2.8 variants of the powerstroke use a different flywheel part number to the HS2.5 version (which is the south american built 300tdi equivalent). So the flywheels as standard are different, but I don't know what the differences might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah, it has afew surface cracks and afew larger ones, not sure if I need to change it, but it feels like I should? Will get some more photos of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyRoverlander Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Mine looked like this: I swapped it out for a resurfaced one just to reduce downtime, even though it has a lot of cracks, they did look to be on the surface only. I bet a lot would have to be taken of to get a good surface though, I have no clue how far you can go before it affects the clucht in any way, if it does at all which I don't think it does. Perhaps having a little step machined in the surface for the clutch cover to sit on and a new clutch and it might be ok again. How long did this one last before it was like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok, that is reassuring, as mine only has afew cracks like that so maybe it just needs a skim, or I leave it until the next clutch (witch will be sooner then expected) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I would get hold of a tdi flywheel and try and see what the difference is , or use existing flywheel and try someone like this , http://www.arrowprecision.com/content/27-flywheels HTSH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Have you considered the like of rakeway to make you a new flywheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 Both of those look very nice, I bet it the same price of getting a new one too. I think I am going to leave it for now and wait until the next clutch change as need to get the truck going again. Out here even getting one off the shelf is gonna take at least a week. Thanks for all the comments and I will go with a custom one next round. Will give an update once it's running as the paddle clutch is gonna be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 a paddle is OK but its the clamping force thats real important , is it a 4 or 6 paddle as a 4 paddle tends to be very on or off JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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