fender1234 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 ive decided to do my wheel bearings tonight after getting the bits today and it says in the book use lithium based grease but the grease ive got is john deere multi purpose is this suitable for the job? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Yup. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 If you add some Wynns Charge to the grease it helps the bearings..... About a dessert spoon full. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender1234 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Share Posted June 11, 2008 ok cheers all i'll crack on with it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Will do and if you remove the outer seal EP oil from the axle/diff will also help to lubricate the wheel bearing (like on Series Land rovers). Cheers Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender1234 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 got a bit of a situation, having put the new tracks in last night and the bearing and hub seal i went out this morning to put the hub on and it wont go on enough to put all the nuts/spacers etc on by about 10mm i think any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 got a bit of a situation, having put the new tracks in last night and the bearing and hub seal i went out this morning to put the hub on and it wont go on enough to put all the nuts/spacers etc on by about 10mm i think any ideas? If brute force isn't working, you're not using enough. It sometimes take quite a bit of pushing to get the bearings and seals to seat properly on the stub. Wiggling/turning as you push also helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvio Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Did you fit everything in the correct order? There shouldn't be need of particular force, and I wouldn't use it, in any case, as there is risk of damaging the oil seal. Here is a "tutorial" picture of the correct fitting order (hub missing, obviously): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Did you fit everything in the correct order?There shouldn't be need of particular force, and I wouldn't use it, in any case, as there is risk of damaging the oil seal. I must agree, I was only kidding about the brute force, one must always take care not to damage the seals. Although the weight of the hub means that some force needs to be applied, in my experience. I found wiggling to be the best solution, after a few tries it usually slides over easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender1234 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 ok i feel like a bit of a idiot but it appears that part of the old bearing stayed on the stub axle and i didnt notice it wasnt part of the stub now i have to try and work out how to get it off and it seems quite firmly in place any ideas? thanks for the picture it made me notice somthing was wrong cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 No force needed but it does sound a bit like the problem I have had with my disc brake conversion, not enough space to fit all bits (nuts and washer/outer seal). But it should not be like that as this is just a wheel bearing replacement. Are you 100% sure the new bearings are completely pressed/tapped into the hub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender1234 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 thanks for the reply marco ive realised its becasue part of the old bearing is seized on the stub now i need to try and get it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 thanks for the reply marco ive realised its becasue part of the old bearing is seized on the stub now i need to try and get it off I had that problem once, I used a Dremel tool to make a cut in the inner bearing race to release pressure so it would slide off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi Fender I doubt that you will be able to get the old bit off. Even if you do, then there is a good chance that the stub axle is damaged underneath - my last one was. What happens is that the bearing inner race spins on the stub axle which generates lots of heat and it begins to weld itself up. You should probably budget for a new stub axle. Be aware that there is a bearing, bush and oil seal in the inside of the stub axle depending on the age of the vehicle and if it is front or rear. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Just had that trouble myself , 1 new stub axle later all is well cost about £40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi FenderI doubt that you will be able to get the old bit off. Even if you do, then there is a good chance that the stub axle is damaged underneath - my last one was. What happens is that the bearing inner race spins on the stub axle which generates lots of heat and it begins to weld itself up. You should probably budget for a new stub axle. Be aware that there is a bearing, bush and oil seal in the inside of the stub axle depending on the age of the vehicle and if it is front or rear. Chris Hi Chris, a bit like this 'welding job' .... it happened to me in Botswana back in 1995 Cheers Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco tony Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 from previous posts, a couple of solutions for removing bearing race from stub is: 1- grind a diagonal line accross race, whack with cold chisel and LR tool #1 2- run a weld around the race, as it contracts it can shrink the race enabling its removal. you have nothing to lose by trying either method, paddocks do a stub for very reasonable money if neither works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 When this happens the stub axle is usually too damaged to reuse, so it's best to save yourself the trouble and buy a new one. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender1234 Posted June 15, 2008 Author Share Posted June 15, 2008 hi, i managed to cut the old one off, so i do i know if the stub is useable or not? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 hi, i managed to cut the old one off, so i do i know if the stub is useable or not? thanks I suggest you fit a new stub axle anyway as they are relatively cheap. It's a bit penny wise not to do that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 If you add some Wynns Charge to the grease it helps the bearings..... About a dessert spoon full. mike Not in my grease you wont ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender1234 Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 ok will do, how do you get the stub off it appears to be seized solid is there a special technique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 ok will do, how do you get the stub off it appears to be seized solid is there a special technique? If you've removed all bolts the only bit holding it is a gasket and some rust. I normally use a hammer to carefully tap if off the axle/swivel housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender1234 Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 thats what ive been doing but ive had to start hitting rather hard know but still seems absolutely solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 thats what ive been doing but ive had to start hitting rather hard know but still seems absolutely solid It might help if you post a picture? Expect it to be rusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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