Tdi or TD5

[T1G UP]

"Tdi or TD5, whats better in your eyes?"

I'm sure if you got either in your eyes it wouldn't be good....

I was waiting for that!

If i had £5750 spare theres a tuned TD5 on the AWDC that looks like a good deal. If i hads £2000 then it would be a 300 tdi

[freeagent]

I reckon the amount of money you have to spend will go some way to making your mind up...

if you have 3-5k to spend you'll get a good 300Tdi, but a fairly rough Td5... of you have 10k to spend you'll get a realy good Td5...

[SteveG]

So it is obvious to me that the TD5 is better for mainly on road use with the odd weekends of play however it is also the road tax as it was pointed out....

If you get a hardtop, truckcab or doublecab, then road tax will be the same as pre March 2001 Defenders

What is the power and torque difference between the 300tdi and TD5?

TD5 has more of both Peak torque on TD5 is higher in rev range though, IIRC.

Which one is better, or can be made better for towing?

TD5. Also a simple stage 1 remap from the likes of Porny on here (IRB developments) etc will make towing a even easier with a TD5

Which one is more tuneable?

TD5

[MacFamilyAus]

Seeing as Ive never owned or driven a TD5 I cannot realy comment on them.But Iam new to the landrover world we have only owned the defender 300tdi for about 8 months.

But my main desion on purchasing the 300Tdi instead of the Td5 is we want to do alot of touring outback Australia ( simpson desert cape york) and if something brakes on the 300 Tdi you've got a good chance of fixing it but in saying that the Td5 is not the most complicated engines its just I know nothing about computers Iam a simple man.

I just wish I could get my hands on a 90 over here they are so rare and expensive.

Goodluck anyway Mate

Azza

I LOVE MY 300Tdi

[sparg]

One thing I've been dissappointed in with the TD5 is that, although it goes alright, more so now I've put a straight through exhaust on, it's a teeny bit hesitant at low revs - in fact I stall it every now and then. maybe a remap will help (one day!) but my son tells me this is a known 'feature' of the accelerate-by-wire standard set up.

Must admit i've been used to diesels that are actually hard to hold back at low revs, so rather spoilt. Anyone know a tweak, or is it actually inherent in the power delivery of the engine?

[Top90]

Off roading, I'd go TDI as I love the sound, power delivery and ease to drive. I had many 300TDi defenders.

On roading, I'd go TD5. That's based on my experience. 57,000 miles in a 55 plate TD5 110CSW. Great on the road after chipping, the turbo lag used to annoy me. Always seemed like it was power on or off when offroading. Mine was hard to get the correct throttle pressure off road. It was either no power, pulling you along with the torque or full throtte.

For both... Puma it's fab at both! (yes, it's off topic)

[Orange]

You also need to think about the availability of significant parts. A relatively in-depth conversation with Turner Engineering revealed that TD5 heads are just as hard to come by as 200TDi ones. 300 parts are more widely available and slightly cheaper, too.

For ease of maintenance, I would chose 300TDi, even though the TD5 I have (Discovery) has never seen a garage for anything other than keeping up the service history. However, the TD5 does benefit from a computer interface that allows you to (almost) pinpoint a problem, rather than earlier engines that required almost a trial and error fixing process.

The only way to ensure reliability of the engine is to get one that you know the history of (often this means a new or recon one) so that you can be sure how it has been treated and how regularly it has been serviced.

[FridgeFreezer]

200TDI's are starting to show their age - they're good for lots of miles but almost all of them have now done lots of miles and are starting to let go more regularly.

Everyone knows electrics will cause your car to explode if you go near water obviously you want to take a few sensible precautions like lifting the ECU above the water level and making sure things that are supposed to be sealed really are sealed, but beyond that there's no reason for electrics to be any less happy in water than mechanical bits.

[steven Hart]

Can not say about TDi's never had one

TD5 great motor loves revs especially when chipped (or Flashed)

great Off-road spent a-lot of time in water bonet depth never had an issue so far from ECU.

Alternator is low and tends to go off after driving through water for a short time.

Had one issue caused by electronic aftermarket stuff which wasn't well sealed.

The biggest issue with wading in TD5 is exhaust manifold warping due to rapid cooling which is what I have put my warp issue down to as autologic flash is not known to cause issue.

[Yostumpy]

Another thing is svo or bio deisel, If you want to go veggie, I dont think that the td5 like it!