bm52 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hi i have a1995 90 which had a knackered rear door. i replaced the door with a series door which fits very well. however i could only get the door to lock using the original slam type lock [front door style if that makes sense?] it locks well and seems fine until you drive down bumpy roads when the shifting of the body and door make the lock rattle like mad. i have adjusted the lock and even drilled the bolt holes oblong to pull the door in and squash the door seal - still rattles any ideas? i have'nt tried but do you know whether the original lock would fit a series door, the exterior key hole positions look different in the doors! thanks bm52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 did you fit the dove tail from the removed door to the now fitted Series door, that part carries the doors weight instead of all the weight being on the lock mechanism, which may cause the rattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm52 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 did you fit the dove tail from the removed door to the now fitted Series door, that part carries the doors weight instead of all the weight being on the lock mechanism, which may cause the rattle. what dove tail? i would be grateful for a clue, sounds like this could be the problem. all the weight is on the hinges. i have'nt fitted anything else. is the dovetail a shaped block the door rests on at the bottom? and do you know whether it would fit a 300tdi. thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) it's the part that fits below the door lock on the door & striker on the vehicle body, I'll add a photo shortly 1st photo, door striker & dovetail on vehicle body 2nd photo lock & dovetail support on door both are standard fit on all 90/110 hardtop or station wagon, to help support the rear door & spare wheel. hope it helps Edited January 25, 2009 by western photo's added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 You can fit a 90 door lock to a series door, but you are right, the keyhole is in the wrong place. I just made a new hole for it. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm52 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 this my door no dovetail and i can't see any bolt holes for it! any idea where i can get a dove tail, can't see any on the usual online stores or ebay. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 should on the door you removed & the body part should still be on the vehicle in same location as mine below the lock/striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAD508X Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 this my doorno dovetail and i can't see any bolt holes for it! any idea where i can get a dove tail, can't see any on the usual online stores or ebay. cheers you need a bracket welded to the door just where there is a cut out in the ally panel below the door lock. A brass wedge is then bolted to the bracket which should line up with another bracket to fit the wedge on the door pillar. Best to look at another Landy with it all in place. Also, a third hinge would be handy if you carry a spare on the door. I would have thought the old door should have been fitted with all you need. The same applies to the new door too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkthe1 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 whoever converted mine to a hard to never fitted the dovetail, and it rattles like....well a very rattley thing!best get it sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm52 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 the dovetail was'nt fitted to my defender or the door i bought so this is new territory for me. it makes sense to have a dovetail so it looks like i will have to buy a whole new set and fit it to both the door and door jam. and yes i have the spare on the door which might explain why the old door split!! i'll give bearmach a call, any ideas where i can buy a dovetail set other than bearmach? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 strange it's never been fitted, the whole reason for it was to offload the door hinges when a spare wheel mount is fitted to the rear door, the parts diagram with the parts highlighted below items 9 to 12 for the door, items 20 to 25 for the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm52 Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The dovetail doesn't take any strain off the hinges, just the lock. It's adjustable, so can be set to take the all the weight on that edge without interfering with the lock's operation. They were fitted in the factory to many vehicles, but not all. My SIII had it, but the Defender County rear door I fit to it (complete with factory spare carrier) does not have the mopunting bracket, and the replacement door trim card lacks the spaces for the bracket. I think it was deleted from one model of the Defender (I suspect the 300Tdi) as a Solihull cost saving measure, but was then re-introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm52 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Snagger - think you're right. been advised today that the dovetail was only fitted up to chassis KA, mines an MA - b*gger if anyone has any ideas on how to stop the door rattling i would love to hear from your thanks BM52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 no reason why it can't be fitted though, just need to make & weld on a bracket on the door as in my picture above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads Toy Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Mine is the same as BM52 ie no dovetail. The parts diagram is great, but only shows it in use for up to KA.... my '95 starts MA... so was it still fitted to later models? I fitted the spare wheel on a Mantec carrier, and whilst expensive, it has certainly made a huge difference as the door no longer carries the weight of the spare wheel. Malcolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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