PieEater3142 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Is it possible? Or does it need to be a Salisbury axle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Yes but why? 110 axle is the strongest front axle out of the factory and has quite nice brakes Salisbury is generally in the rear unless it's something very heavy and military Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieEater3142 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I have a 10 spline front, assumed that 24 spline would be better no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozsug Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Springs are different diameter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 24 is better, apparently, but why not just change the diff and halfshafts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieEater3142 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 Was planning on putting the bits inside the 110 axle - don't fancy ripping the axle off moving springs etc. Sorry should been more specific, would it be a straight swap of the innards? And does the disco diff have a different strength to the defender one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejparrott Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 IIRC, 24 spline diffs are the same, but wouldn't like to comment on the half shafts without looking in my parts book first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieEater3142 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 thanks guys. My current 10 spline has some play in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Some great mis-information in the posts here.... 1. 110 front axle is NOT a salisbury, it is a rover-type exactly the same as on a 90, a Disco & RRC. (there may be some rare military apps with a salisbury front before anyone tries to get pedantic) 2. The springs are the same diameter defender/disco/RRCs front axles though spring rates may vary. 3. Early 110s were fitted with a type of CV which is generally acknowledged as being the strongest standard item LR used. But the same axle has 10 spline halfshafts and diff centres which are generally considered weaker than later 24 spline units. 4. Brakes have generally been larger on 110 as compared to 90s and Disco & co. All parts are interchangeable though. For what its worth my opinion is that you can fit any Rover axle to the front of any of the different models (though make sure your new axle comes with radius arms as these can vary). But make sure you fit the correct brakes for the model you are fitting it to. HTHs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieEater3142 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 thanks Mountain Man, very precise. Depending on play in the 24 spline, will upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 You may have to swap the stub axles and hubs across too, since the ones on the Disco axle will likely be the later thin type. Personally I'd replace what's worn on your 10-spline setup and keep the stronger CVs and better brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'd call putting disco internals in an early front axle downgrading. The 24 spline half shafts are stronger but the diffs are the same be they 10 or 24 spline and the early cvs are stronger. Just thought I'd poke my oar in Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieEater3142 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 OK, thanks guys, sounds like I stick with what I've got. Cheers for all the info. Seems like the 110 wins over Disco... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Just so happens I have a complete early 110 axle here which I am going to sell at some point. Reason. I changed it for a complete disco one that I had recently completely rebuilt and strengthened. I fitted TD5 110 calipers and vented discs while I was doing the change but left the axle completely untouched, just swapped it straight over. Having never broken a LR CV under normal driving conditions with standardish sized wheels I don't think the difference in CV strength is such an issue. A mate of mine owns a very busy garage in an agricultural area and he says they have yet to have to replace a terminally broken CV on a standard land rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 There's not a lot in it with 10 to 24 spline - common misconception; however a 24spline 4 pinion is different Better to use the 10 spline as a 'fuse' in the set up as it's cheap and easy to replace Driven sensibly a standard 110 set up should last 250k miles and 20+ years. Driven like a complete XXXX it's a different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Road Toad Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 You are all assuming that the early 110" axle in question has the 23/10 spline cv's which are good, but it may have the 32/10 spline version which makes it the most pathetic thing Land Rover ever made. And being as the newest shinyest 10 spline tut is what 19 years old now, i'd be seriously looking at that disco axle myself! And i really don't believe in the weak link nonsense either. Surely you don't want it to break at all? cut gears on 10 spline versus forged gears, the later 24 spline diffs have a 18mm cross shaft not 15.6mm so ARE stronger. Cv's on 24 spline stuff are supported by proper needle roller bearings not a phosphor bronze ring that wears away in 5 mins. 24 spline stuff is equally cheap as 10 spline thanks to the vast numbers of rusty school run disco's. my ten pence worth. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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