white90 Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Since fitting upgraded pads mine and James 8274 have popped the circlip off under load also ejecting the oils seal and moving the bronze bush outwards on the main shaft. before I buy standard pads has anyone else suffered this probelm? I'm aware of the modifications available to retain the circlip(Gwyn Lewis) and the replacement main shaft from gigglepin. but why is this happening? mine XP motor gigglepin pads James standard motor(Gwyn Lewis pads) I understand the pads are one in the same from the above suppliers. a new shaft with a bolt to retain the brake is a £175ish Gwyn's mod far cheaper but not really what I want as the circlip is carp. the one on my winch deformed as it was pushed from the main shaft(two belleville washers were in place at the time. Any ideas TIA Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 The problem is the circlip, not the pads. They pop off. Drill the shaft and add a bolt. 15 minute exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 You did yours ok IIRC but I've heard of difficulties in drilling the shaft to. care to run through how/what you did on yours? thanks Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 You did yours ok IIRC but I've heard of difficulties in drilling the shaft to.care to run through how/what you did on yours? thanks Tony I think it varies from one 8274 to the next, i tried to drill one in the lathe once and nothing i'd got would touch it, but a freind of mine drilled his insitu with no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 I like the look if not the cost of the Gigglepin version I wonder if there is a forum discount scheme or multiple purchase scheme available http://www.gigglepin4x4.net/homepage/main.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Cobalt drill bits. Small pilot then the tapping bit size. From people saying they have problems, I suspect later model units are through hardened while earlier ones are case hardened. My (winch's) shaft is certainly case hardened as the outside is very hard. The center was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I broke the drill point while trying to do the job on mine the broken piece is still in new shaft on the shelf as spare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Cheers To Jim new shaft on its way. can't be buggering about with brakes falling to pieces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsr341 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 i had problems drilling mine too hard as hell , colbolt would not touch them had a engeneering place do them in the end , and had some boses machened up that do away with the circlip alltogether rather than just holding the circlip in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 considered the drilling approach but the gigglepin kit has a stronger shaft and shims to get rid of the slop in the gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9OSV Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi, The reason some can, and some can't drill the shafts is down to the simple fact that Warn have used quite a few different versions of the mainshaft in the 8274........ There are four different shafts available that we are aware of, not including the variants used in the 8074's and 8072's Some are VERY hard some are not. The catch however is that the softer shafts ie: The ones you can drill. Do tend to suffer with teeth breakages under high load. So you damned if do and damned if you don't... Sometimes the world is not a fair place...... Shafts on the shelf. Hope that helps a little Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 Kit arrived and duly fitted 1st class piece of work Jim should have got one at Billing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 is the modified gear included in the kit or is that a separate charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9OSV Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 The smooth splined gear is available as an exchange item or for outright sale. We do these at cost Hope that's some use. regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Jim, Have you tried drilling an 8074 one yet? I need to do mine, but a normal HSS drill wouln't touch it... Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 well he has an 8074 now so maybe he'll soon know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 kinda why I asked.... Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9OSV Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Will let you know tomorrow........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 shaft fiited as per this library pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Is that your winch, Tony? It doesn't look like a 6hp on there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Will, No from Gigglepin, can't possibly be from Tony's Bench to clean and it's a mug, not Val's best china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Bit of a giveaway will hen I said as this library pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9OSV Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Pictures from our fitting instructions, Which can be found on our website in PDF form under the heading mainshaft upgrade kits. Can't beat an good mug of tea....... Jim www.gigglepin4x4.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Bit of a giveaway will hen I said as this library pic Ah yes, but that would assume I could read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 I know your spelling sucks but presumed you could read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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