Michele Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 There must be someone here who can help As per title, I need a photo of such a spindle, which has on the outside (visible even installed on the truck)), right between the brake backing plate and the swivel housing, an annular groove cut in it for identification (just like the Salisbury 24 spline drive flanges). I'm after a pair, my mechanic may have some in the shed but wants a photo for reference, and I have none... Anybody? TIA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Pinched this off the net, do a google search for series stub axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Idris Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 No, the other side of the back plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy-Novice Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 not the same as a drum brakes sals axle are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Series Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 You do not say what year or engine as parts catalogue gives three versions but only this number comes up with a stub axle. http://www.paddockspares.com/599828-stub-axle.html BY the way parts book says the same as later series SWB . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Now I am no longer sure I know what a "annular groove cut" is These front spindles (stub axles) I'm after are unique to 109"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Whats so unique? stubs are usually the same between an 88 and 109. I am puzzled to know whats different. All i know is early and late, easy to see. I have several stubs all from dismantled 109 axles, let me go have a look and post some pics later. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I wish I knew more! Thanks Grem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Ok I am back, and you are in luck, camera found, batteries ok and cable found as well...........so on to the pics! Is this what you are looking for? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hey Grem, thanks for the photos, that could be "the groove". While waiting for confirmation, the part number for the spindle is (was) 599827. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Yes 599827 seems to be right part you are after. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Well at least now I know what to look for thanks for the photo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Be warned there are two different type, one for pre-rationalised axles and one for post-rationalised. This change was in 1908, and has three differences - first was that the seal land on the earlier part was removable, but not on the later part, the second was that the inboard and outboard bearings were different sizes on the early design but identical after rationalisation, and the third change is that a slot was machined in the outboard face of the flange, on the opposite side to the slot in the threads, which aligned with a hole in the backplate to allow oil leaks to drain away without contaminating the shoes. So, make sure you get the right version! My rationalised axle stubs also had the groove around the flange edge so I don't think that means anything - the stub in the photos is the early type as the inboard bearing land is thicker than the outboard - the newer ones lack that step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The pre rationalised stubs for a 109" are bored larger to clear the 24spline shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The pre rationalised stubs for a 109" are bored larger to clear the 24spline shaft. Wasn't it the post rationalised axles that had 24 splines? That's what my 1982 axle had, with rationalised hub sand stubs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Ooook, I'll investigate further... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Mine is a 74 and had 24 spline outers. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hancock Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Series 3 109" were 24 spline from the start hence 88" and 109" pre rationalisation having different part numbers. On a 2a they were both the same and the same as a series 3 88". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Annular grooves machined into various Landrover components usually identified them as being so called strengthened/revised material spec components that can sometimes be retrofitted to earlier assemblies. These 'grooves' can be found on ring and pinions, crownwheel carriers, swivel balls, synchro hubs etc etc. I can't say that I have noticed it on stub axles before, but the front axle stubs were strengthened sometime during series 2 production by not boring it out for the outer stub shaft bronze bushing that was originally there to support the earlier series one Tracta joint stub shaft and wasn't required for the later universally jointed shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Exactly, Bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 There you go, i learnt something new! Thanks Bill! G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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