Arjan Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Bonjour All, I have been offered a totally rotten rolling 110 chassis with a Nissan 6 Cyl diesel engine & LT77 gearbox attached to it. Having had the Mazda 3.5 Tdi in the past, I like engine conversions but Nissan is new to me. Please, tell me about this as I'm sure people on this great forum will know more ! Thanks. Arjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Any idea what type? LD28? RD28? SD33? TD42? Generally hardy lumps, the TD42 compares well to the Toyota 4.2 six cylinder, and is arguably a better engine. Wanna swop it for a Mazda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich broom Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'm sure I had the ld28 in a 110 some years back. Bloody good engine. But they are prone to snapping cranks. But they do rev well, probably the cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Swop for a Mazda..... You know I love the Mazda's.... Not sure what type it is - I hope to get more info this weekend. Size wise, being a 6-pot, how difficult are they to fit in a 110 ? Interesting, interesting... Please guys, keep the comments & info coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh NZ Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 In NZ a company named forward specs offered this conversion (Nissan LD28) into a defender and mated them to LT77s I believe. I think they were contracted by the NZ Air Force to fit out their 110s . There was one for sale on trademe.co.nz not long ago. Common to see series trucks with them here too. Great motors, some folks have had success turbo-ing them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yup, like Josh said, it was a common bastar...conversion here in NZ to stick an LD28 in a 90/110 or even a Series Land Rover. It works because the motors rev fairly well but they are really noisy! They must fit ok because there were many done and few reported problems if done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Thanks you all very much. Eagerly awaiting further info. I'd like to have a bit more power than the 300 Tdi can deliver and ideally I'd fit a Mazda again but they are not easy to find these days.. I really, really miss my 110 CSW with the Mazda and ZF ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Right..... Just got these pics. What are we looking at ? Seller thinks it is mated to a LT77... Should come complete with everything to make it run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsu0san Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I would question the gearbox as the engine looks too far away from the bulkhead to be attached to a Defender LT77. Could be a Discovery LT77 and I could be wrong on either though. Looks like a good conversion though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I would suggest it's a V8 box, with a 200 Tdi radiator/intercooler setup. Not a great expert on these things, but I'd say it's an RD28, a 2.8 litre turbo engine. Worth a punt if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 And this is the other one that he has : Is that a LT95 gearbox with a 1.61 transferbox (filler opening on top) attached to it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Frimodt Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I would guess that the one fitted in the car is a 3,3 and the spare one is a 2,8. I've owned a 2,8 and IMO they are absolutely gutless heavy beasts. But the 3,3 should be a bit better in the grunt department. Won't beat a 300 tdi there though. BUT they do run smoother and rev extremely nicely for a diesel. And the spare gearbox is definitely an LT77 with LT230 T-box fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Spare looks like an SD33, it's got the I line pump, the RD28 was a rotary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The only one worth considering is the TD42 the others are old fashioned , and a not particularly powerful. The 3.3 was pretty reliable ,and long lived but they cant hold a candle to a 300tdi. The td42 as mentioned by previous poster was a good lump a little bit thirsty ,but plenty of torque . There were a few problems with people after market turboing the n/a engine , pistons tended to melt ! HTSH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hmm..... You guys sounds as if this is not the best route for the 110 powerplant.... So... who has a good working Mazda 3.5 Tdi for me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daslandroverman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I have one in my 110 at present which I want to replace. Only problem is it breathes 3 litres of oil for 500 miles running. I reckon a set of rings would cure it, but as M&D quoted me about £680 for a set of rings and required gaskets, £980+VAT gets a full rebuild kit including pistons, liners etc. Still goes well enough that I know a Tdi wouldn't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh NZ Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 SD33 http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/28748858+w660+re0/154_1008_02_o%2B154_1008_1985_jeep_cj10a_wide_eyed%2Bengine_bay.jpg LD28 https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR26PmeAlSx7rc2hzAYzLy9qwayw3Sgs-HcVWu1sBhwXjGRr9Ry5CS_VQdy RD28 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjexF5rXDZeXQf9L9tu0NyTg3qnM0gvT6AjZ15_rgHmbvNhA6q0BQkflhtrw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I've driven the LD28 in a Land Rover and can confirm it's not a a conversion you'd use for power, though it is flexible and can get up some speed, if your ears can take it. It doesn't have a TDi's terrible turbo lag though. The Aussies used an Isuzu 3.9 in some of their Land Rovers so a range of Isuzu motors could be an easy fit. My parents had a 2.8 in their camper van which was a nice engine. However, if you are used to the Mazda and like it, that sounds like the way to go. The quote above for a rebuild kit might work out to be quite good value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Some years ago a mate fitted the SD33 into an 88" hardtop. In fact he used the entire Nissan drive train, giving excellent disk brakes to slow him down. That truck didn't pull well! That engine was beautifully smooth and powerful sounding, and revved most willingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Depending on what route you want to go, best options 1. Cummins BT4 or BT6 2. BMW or Merc 3ltr 1. is a more truck like drive 2, is a more car like other engine options larger capacity Izuzu or Iveco , the ivecos seem to suffer from blowby , oil leak at relatively low miles compared with other JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thanks - more food for thought... Hmm.... Want to try and stay away from ECU's and the likes as we go to remote places with not always good fuel.. Pref. 4 cyl. me thinks having now seen the 6 cyl from a BMW in Stage One and there is not a lot of space left .. Cummins is about 104 BHP ????? That does not sound a lot when looking for more power, sole & towing, and a wee bit of speed. Cruising at 70-75 mph would be nice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh NZ Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=34510&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1 Might an option worth considering. Have you considered Toyota 4cyl diesel? Or are they too pricey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 What Toyota would that be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh NZ Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 A 13BT could be worth a look. 3.4 turbo, direct injection. They make around 110/120hp in stock form depending on the version. Heated intake instead of glow plugs. A little on the clattery side being DI but good strong motors otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesy Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 The Nissan FD series may also be an option, a friend had a RRC with an FD42 and that went well, would sit on 110kmh towing a car on a trailer over the hills south of Auckland without slowing down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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