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Can I ask how long you might expect a clutch master cylinder to last?

I replaced mine following brake fluid trickling down the clutch pedal about 3 and a half years ago. After two years it abruptly failed and since need was urgent (and weather was awful) I got local LR specialist to replace it. I had wondered if I had done something wrong since 2 years did not seem right.

I am now (18 months later) seeing the familiar sheen on the clutch pedal again so suspect total failure is not far away.

Is this normal? If not then is there something else wrong in the clutch system causing it to happen?

Would appreciate any advice here since somehow replacing clutch master cylinder does not feel it should be a normal regular maintenance task.

Thanks

Malcy

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It seems master & slave like to go together, so I say change both for non white or blue boxed ones if you have to change one. I think the master's life isn't helped by being showered with water everytime you open the bonnet in England. Maybe your hose is porous? Is the fluid black? They don't seem to last long.

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Make sure the fluid is changed fully as well, this will help a great deal.

My slave failed several years ago and I replaced it with a cheapo non-branded one from local motor factors as that's all I could get at short notice. It went again a couple of weeks ago.

This time I replaced both master and slave with branded (TRW/Delphi) units, which hopefully will last a bit longer :)

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The one on my 2001 90TD5 lasted about 7 years (60,000 miles).

It didn't leak fluid, it just didn't pump properly any more.

I fitted a new [bearmach] cylinder. Looking at the old one it was the rubber seal on the piston that had failed - I've re-rubbered it and now have it vacuum-packed-and-rustproofed and stored awaiting the now-5-year-old replacement to fail.

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I've found it's good to pack the push rod side with grease. The genuine parts ones are like this. Do not buy cheap ones, if the body is made of aluminium it's carp. They should be cast.

Bit of a sweeping statement there? The last one I fitted was cast. Cast aluminium. Made by Delphi

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Bit of a sweeping statement there? The last one I fitted was cast. Cast aluminium. Made by Delphi

sorry meant to say cast iron. Cadmium plated too. Delphi stuff is usually pretty good, sure it will be fine. I have changed more of these than I want to remember and the genuine part quality ones last the longest by far.

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I used to have problems with mine, every 20.000 miles. I tried 2 new genuine ones, same result, I tried a repair set from Lucas, same result. I finally dismantled it and went to a small local brake workshop and I found some compatible seals from a Toyota...never had any problem since and it is mote than 35.000miles ago.

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I used to have problems with mine, every 20.000 miles. I tried 2 new genuine ones, same result, I tried a repair set from Lucas, same result. I finally dismantled it and went to a small local brake workshop and I found some compatible seals from a Toyota...never had any problem since and it is mote than 35.000miles ago.

I don't suppose you know the part number of the toyota seals? Would be a fantastic fix!

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The OE Land Rover/Girling ones seem to have really poor pistons and seals, much to my astonishment as I always used these cylinders on race cars.

After replacing two genuine ones in as many years I ended up replacing it with a PBR m/c (cheaper than a seal kit) and it's been fine for many, many years.

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The OE Land Rover/Girling ones seem to have really poor pistons and seals, much to my astonishment as I always used these cylinders on race cars.

After replacing two genuine ones in as many years I ended up replacing it with a PBR m/c (cheaper than a seal kit) and it's been fine for many, many years.

Aggghhh! I just bought a new master cylinder yesterday :)

I don't suppose you have the part number, did you have to make any modifications or was it a straight swap?

Cheers,

Mike

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To have a cylinder re-sleeved costs about the same as a decent new one. But it will last for ever!

It is a well-known fact that the Defender m/c is actually a SII item in disguise - check the AF threads for a start. And they last the life of the vehicle in the Series. In the Defender there is something wrong with the angle of the pushrod which causes the aluminium bore to wear oval - this is why it is useless to change the seals in an old cylinder. The stainless sleeve does not wear so the problem is fixed. You can, however improve things by trying to make sure that the pushrod is in a straight line.

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