14Platoon Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 1992 Defender ex MOD I have a leaky window/door (shock). I think I've located the issue. In the window channel the water seems to pool at the forward edge, this then overfills and runs down the door into the footwell. What would cause the blockage? I can see a hole for drainage in the channel, I've poked this and it seems clear. Thanks Edited March 11, 2018 by 14Platoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV8R Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Your problem , and that of just about every Defender owner, is very nicely explained in this video. A bit lengthy maybe but at around 10:00 he comes to the solution. The watch is worth every second and the fix is simple. Mind you, this chap has a ton of interesting video's on Land Rover repairs so it might take an evening of two to watch them all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) Assuming your doors are the same as my 1991 military, they are 2 piece with sliding glass. The top window section is bolted onto the lower door section. Between the two is a gasket which has 3 elongated slots about 1” long on the outside of the door, these let the water drain from the window channel to the outside of the door. Make sure these are clear, backflush with a hose or fiddle a bit of wire to try and clear. Else you may have to split the window from the door to clear away debris, it’s only a couple of studs but they will inevitably be seized and the sections stuck together. There are a couple of old threads they may help you if you need to go that way. Edited March 11, 2018 by Paddy for clarity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Platoon Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thanks for the replies. Yes I see the gaps on the outside seal area. These look like they will be blocked. Probably paint and stuff has filled them up. Ill more than likely try to split the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 studs go through door into the window, the bottom nuts will be rusted on so go easy, Either the nut will undo or stud will unscrew. Odds on you'll need placements, coat with grease to future proof. Go easy with the seal, original replacements are hard to find, after market ones are different and throw the window section out of alignment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Platoon Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Paddy said: 2 studs go through door into the window, the bottom nuts will be rusted on so go easy, Either the nut will undo or stud will unscrew. Odds on you'll need placements, coat with grease to future proof. Go easy with the seal, original replacements are hard to find, after market ones are different and throw the window section out of alignment. Good tips. Ill try to preserve the seal as I’m struggling to find a replacement already. I’ll order some bolts I think before stripping down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) Door seals. https://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=mtc6224&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10 Door studs. https://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=mtc6223&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10 Edited March 12, 2018 by neil110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Platoon Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 hours ago, neil110 said: Door seals. https://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=mtc6224&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10 Door studs. https://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=mtc6223&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10 Nice one thanks. Seals ordered today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Check the seal profile before fitting, I tried two makes (can't remember which) before going back to the old original one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) The old seals were flat and the seals fitted to the WOLF had a different profile, this much is true but both types fit perfectly well. When I can get back to my home PC I will dig out the part No for the wolf variety. Looking at the picture of the genuine seal in the link, that is the later WOLF type with the external lip. As do the seals you currently have fitted Then there are all the small pieces of moulded foam to prevent the water from migrating along the channel in the base of the seal. https://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=mtc7549&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10 https://www.brit-car.co.uk/search.php?query=mtc7550&xBrand=&part_type=&xSupplierID=&product-sort=&xPerPage=10 Given the price differential it would be cheaper to simply buy the longer pieces and cut them down to size for the shorter pieces Edited March 12, 2018 by neil110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Platoon Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 This s what I’ve ordered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Platoon Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 Thanks for the replies. i have the new seals with the inch gaps x 3. Does anyone know the correct way of fitting these as I appear to have two method variations one on each door, neither looks right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I can't recall, I kept the original seal but can't remember any confusion of orientation when reinstalling it as long as the gaps drain to the outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 The gaps should face outwards so the water is directed towards the outside. If there is a sharp lip on the outer part of the seal, that should be pointing upwards, in fact you can see it in your original picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Platoon Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 hours ago, neil110 said: The gaps should face outwards so the water is directed towards the outside. If there is a sharp lip on the outer part of the seal, that should be pointing upwards, in fact you can see it in your original picture Nice one. My other door is exactly the opposite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil110 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Don't ask me why the lip points upwards, it seems counter intuitive to me, water is bound to capillary into the tiniest space available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Platoon Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, neil110 said: Don't ask me why the lip points upwards, it seems counter intuitive to me, water is bound to capillary into the tiniest space available Yes I thought exactly the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cchase Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 MIghty pricy! Couldn't you make some replacement foam ones from the material used to seal the cap on the back of a truck bed? C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 7:23 PM, AV8R said: Your problem , and that of just about every Defender owner, is very nicely explained in this video. A bit lengthy maybe but at around 10:00 he comes to the solution. The watch is worth every second and the fix is simple. Mind you, this chap has a ton of interesting video's on Land Rover repairs so it might take an evening of two to watch them all. Just lost a good 2 hours of my working day having a look through this chap's videos! Plenty of good advice in there although i'm not sure about his anti-waxoyl stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cchase Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Mike puts out one or two videos per day. Informative and very candid. He also takes requests for 'how to' questions. And then there was the raccoon! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Yep, a good chap, surprised to have not seen his videos mentioned on here before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yostumpy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I followed his tips with the dum dum, and seems to be working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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