discodave Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 hello again, been reading the freds on bush replacement and wondered wot kind o press you'd need to do the job yerself. would it need to be a hydraulic job or would one o these manual ones be up to the task? http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=2...bor-Press-05ton they do a 1 ton, 2 ton etc, but if a smallish un would do the job it'd probably be worth getting at that price. i dunno, wadda ya think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Humphreys Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 You need at least a 10T press, but I have seen a 20T press not even move the bushes. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksmelly Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Bushwacka and a big hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Or burn them out, then cut through the outer sleeve with a hacksaw blade. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodave Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 eeeek! oh well, just thought i'd ask been lookin at techie section on t very same subject and seen some interestin stuff about bushes there. it's goin into famous four to have swivels and rear calipers done on thursday, i'll be hidin behind a bush all day waitin for the bill! not the old bill obviously!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Bushes ,press You'd think it was Christmas. I've never used a press for bushes. A hammer and a drift. A burning torch but never a press. To fit bushes. A length of studding nuts and a variety of washers of different diameters. mike FOAK Knickers I can cause trouble in an empty house !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 10T is a minimum as said, you regularly need between 15-20 tons to shift sticky ones. At work we have a 50T V L Churchill dual range press built in about 1930 that you would need a fork lift to pick up, and it is brilliant. I think the current record we have is 42 tons to shift a radius arm bush and yes they do go with a #kin big bang when they finally shift!! You can get them out by other means but its hard work... give me a press any time. 1 or 2 ton press would be a waste of money IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 what he said, at least a 10T press, 15 or 20T would be better... bench mounted 10T presses can be picked up second hand for sensible money... or if you are handy with a bit of fabrication, a few lengths of channel, and a suitably sized bottle jack might sort you out..... there must be some plans on the web if you do a search.... a 20T bottle jack is only about £25 new from machine mart, if you can scrounge some scrap steel you could be up and running for very little cash.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodave Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 a 20T bottle jack is only about £25 new from machine mart, if you can scrounge some scrap steel you could be up and running for very little cash.... the more i read posts on this forum the more i think i've already paid 2500 quid for some scrap steel thank you i may be wrong but i get the impression that some of you guys look forward to the next breakdown just so's you can get yer spanners out again i may be old fashioned but i think cars should be seen and not heard (you know what i mean!) i know people with jap 4x4s and they dont seem to fair much better, even ones that dont go off road. why is that? owning a disco is really starting to bring out the masochist in me, i do enjoy riding around in my big, comfy tractor but i think i'm gonna have to get a bigger hammer. smile and the world smiles with you, cry and you've probably bought an old disco recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruntus Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 the more i read posts on this forum the more i think i've already paid 2500 quid for some scrap steel thank you i may be wrong but i get the impression that some of you guys look forward to the next breakdown just so's you can get yer spanners out again i may be old fashioned but i think cars should be seen and not heard (you know what i mean!) i know people with jap 4x4s and they dont seem to fair much better, even ones that dont go off road. why is that? owning a disco is really starting to bring out the masochist in me, i do enjoy riding around in my big, comfy tractor but i think i'm gonna have to get a bigger hammer. smile and the world smiles with you, cry and you've probably bought an old disco recently I feel the anger in you.......... welcome to the dark side....... Anyway, what do you mean "you guys"? Answer the following questions (truthfully)? 1) does the thought of an 18cfm compressor excite you? 2) have you done the maths for running a V8 on LPG to see if you can justify the cost (but it always just doesn't quite make it). 3) you think that steering gaurds and chequer plate done tastefully looks sweet 4) you know what D90 and Disco mean when thrown into a conversation 5) you know what axle articulation and cross axling is 6) i f you won the lottery a large garage and a trip to Jeremy Fearn would be your priority (and a V8 without LPG) 7) disposable latex gloves changed your life!! If you have answered Yes to more than one of the above then you too are actually on of "us guys"!! Cheers Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 i get the impression that some of you guys look forward to the next breakdown Well I do anyway. If you hate your Disco it'll break on you - you need to generate positive waves through your chakra, man, don't get heavy with the ley-lines of the transmission and try to hug your axles. Peace and love and forum stickers are the way to go - man! Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troddenmasses Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I have just finished replacing the radius arm bushes on my 90 for the very first time, and was somewhat worried by all of the stories of just how much pressure it would take to push them in. To take them out, I used a hack saw to get through the rubber, then chiseled a section out with an old screwdriver. I then hacksawed carefully through the bush, and used the same knackered screwdriver to chisel a small piece of outer bush out of the way. The bushes then just fell out. To get the new ones in, I was thinking about making/buying a hydraulic press, but couldn't really be @rsed. I have quite a large vice (Old blue one I broke can be seen just in front of new one From this thread It's from machine mart, the CSVR200, at £41.07 inc. All I did was use a couple of sockets which were about the right size, and press it in. I found that once you had quite a bit of pressure on the bush, tapping the top of the radius arm with a club hammer really helped to ease it in. Granted, I have managed to bend the handle a nit, and I was using a 4ft piece of scaf pole to turn it. No idea how much pressure I was putting in there, but I can't see it being more than a couple of tonnes. Anybody know how I would work it out? Anyway - for only £40, I have a huge vice wich can be used for loads of different things, including pressing bushes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I've found mileage in playing a blowtorch over the bush to get the rubber out in the past (do this outdoors) and then hacksaw and chisel as above. Just bludgeoning it out with loads of pressure seems a bit Brunellian to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodave Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Well I do anyway.If you hate your Disco it'll break on you - you need to generate positive waves through your chakra, man, don't get heavy with the ley-lines of the transmission and try to hug your axles. Peace and love and forum stickers are the way to go - man! Les. i do luv my disco les, i'm just terrified of something major saying "bye dave, i'm off". as gruntus noticed, i am indeed one of "you guys" and do like getting my hands dirty although i'm obviously not as accomplished (see post on egr valves) but i've only really done bikes and a little bit of normal sized car stuff before and a lot of the stuff on the truck sounds a bit daunting (everything's so big and seized) and requires tools i dont own as yet, that added to no garage makes what i can happily take on, very limited. but that's why i joined the forum, to learn from those who know and develop my warped sense of humor i need my truck for work, there's no turning back now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Dave there is really nowt on your car that is easily fixed/obtained wehn we first got a Disco many moons ago the horror stories were many and I even purchased a warranty then 3 discoveries later never had a single problem with any of them that wasn't easily repaired by myself. the best part is there'll be someone on here who knows how to sort the majority of issues or will lend a hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruntus Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 i do luv my disco les, i'm just terrified of something major saying "bye dave, i'm off". as gruntus noticed, i am indeed one of "you guys" and do like getting my hands dirty although i'm obviously not as accomplished (see post on egr valves) but i've only really done bikes and a little bit of normal sized car stuff before and a lot of the stuff on the truck sounds a bit daunting (everything's so big and seized) and requires tools i dont own as yet, that added to no garage makes what i can happily take on, very limited. but that's why i joined the forum, to learn from those who know and develop my warped sense of humor i need my truck for work, there's no turning back now Dave, Build some reliability into your motor by doing the things I always do when getting a new car (I am assuming you have a 300TDi?). If you want peice of mind make sure your radiator and thermostat are in good working order. Oil change every 6000 miles religiously!! Change the timing belt if you don't know its history (do it with a mate in the know just for peice of mind) and check your tappets for correct clearance also. Check all your fluids (engine, gearbox and diffs). Check for play on your half shafts (See Les' excellent threads on this) and replace any Universal Joints if need be. Check your wheel bearings and adjust as necassary. It may seem a lot but working around your vehicle you will become more familiar and you will see how much more reliable (and less complicated than you think) they can be compared to some newer cars. (Golf GTI Turbo last year as my "reliable" car and it cost me £800 to fix over 6 months and believe me you CANNOT fix a thing on it yourself without specialist tools!!) Older Land Rovers (I have a 200TDi) are more agricultural on the major stuff and although some things are going to break once you fix them they are usually fixed for a while. Agreed you may have spent £2500 on an "old" car but looked after right she will keep you going for a long time. I also have to admit that working on my two Landies is almost therapeutic (focus of mind and concentration) and the resulting work is very satisfying (what an anorak.......) Les you do it for a living so your view may be different!! Anyone else have a view?? Now chant after me.............. Cheers Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 You do tend to get plenty of warning before things get expensive, The 200TDi engine is very good and long lasting. Even if something like the crank fails it's not horrendously expensive. The LT77 gearbox has a habit of needing replacing around the 100,000 m mark, due to poor lubrication of the gearbox input shaft and bearing. Being able to fix things yourself will make the biggest financial difference to the cost of keeping your truck. Example is paying a garage around £450 to replace your clutch or do it yourself for less than £100, Re-build a swivel completely - including the ball and pay a garage about £300 or £120 to do it yourself. Corrosion is what'll be the biggest problem - sills, rear floor, inner wings. Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Well said Grant. I keep saying one of the biggest problems with owning a Land Rover is the name. You know "It's a Land Rover it will go anywhere and I don't need look after it" attitude. As a retired mechanic I hate getting my hands dirty. I try to service on schedule and try to do preventitive maintenance. If only othere did the same we wouldn't be hearing half of the horror stories about Land Rovers. Rant over. mike FOAK Knickers I can cause trouble in an empty house !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodave Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 ta for the advice eveyrone, i shall endevour to fend off trouble with preventive maintenance. i really was only joking with the scrap iron comment though. since i've had the disco i've used her every day apart from wen i was away and she's been up to jockistan and back twice and never missed a beat, it is indeed a 300tdi, and although there are a few things need sorting, she has been pretty well looked after, so far as i can tell and hopefully she will keep going strong. thats why i'm spending the dosh to have work done properly at ff in louth to start with, but i'll do more meself when i get to know more about em. i'm sure everyone on this forum knows there's nothing like regular servicing to keep everything working right! in the meantime i'll keep asking questions and i do appreciate all your help. in fact, you can expect my next question v v soon. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 the more i read posts on this forum the more i think i've already paid 2500 quid for some scrap steel thank you i may be wrong but i get the impression that some of you guys look forward to the next breakdown just so's you can get yer spanners out again i may be old fashioned but i think cars should be seen and not heard (you know what i mean!) i know people with jap 4x4s and they dont seem to fair much better, even ones that dont go off road. why is that? owning a disco is really starting to bring out the masochist in me, i do enjoy riding around in my big, comfy tractor but i think i'm gonna have to get a bigger hammer. smile and the world smiles with you, cry and you've probably bought an old disco recently Not necessarily - my D2 is now four and a half years old and I could count the number of significant problems I have had with it on the fingers of one hand. Once they get up over 100,000 miles you will have some problems but I think you will with anything 10 years old with 100k miles on the clock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 well ive promised my disco i'll fit the forum stickers IF she behaves till next year, thats the right attitude isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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