Se7enUp Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I'm thinking of getting a winch sometime later in the year. I've quite a bit of necessary work to do before I can start buying "toys" but a winch is definately on the "wish list". Can anyone give me some advice of what make/model/power would suit my needs. I have a Ninety and aim to mainly green lane with a few play days thrown in. I mainly need something that would be OK for self recovery. I'm not really interested in having a "super-dooper" set up. I'm not going to be doing any competition stuff, I just want something that will give me a chance of getting out of the **** if I get stuck on a lane. Also - money is the biggest factor as from what I can see, a winch bumber and a winch seems to be around £500+++ I'm really going to be shopping on a budget if I decide to get one. Also is there any way to mount a (front) winch without having to fit a dedicated winch bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 winch cradles do exist. the original LR winch fitting for discos is a cradle that fits around the stock bumper. ive seen descret mounts sold where the winch fits back inside the outline of the car. could do that yourself with a bit plate of steel & a welder, if (unlike me) you can weld. trouble with them is you cant see the winch as well a lot of the time so its hard to tell if its spooling correctly. i also like winch bumpers for protection, i can drive my truck into a cliff & keep pushing. all that happens is the car slides sideways, try that on a stock bumper. Ive got a Tmax EW-11000 winch on my disco. they seem to have got a slating off a lot of people but mines been great for me. its quite low current drain for the power at 410Amps off a 5.5hp motor. its slow but ive never stalled it yet. been times i expected to need to double line it from watching other similar size winches in action but its always pulled on a single line. one of the solinoids needed a tap to get it working again once & now & then you need to thump the motor (i think its got dirt inside jamming the brushes) but that happens to any winch. one day when i have chance i'll rebuild it & seal it up properly. i have winched/rerigged/winched/etc for over an hour in deep mud in the past without the motor getting too warm to touch. unlike a lot of the more expensive winches ive seen in use which get so hot your just waiting for them to die on you. i think thats a combination of the hp & the high gearing so it never overloads in normal use. came with 11mm wire rope too, larger than a lot of warns etc so they must expect it to produce good power. ok the finish isnt excellent & the chrome freewheel lever is rusting, but i can live with that for a cheap reliable winch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Hiya, Funnily enough I wrote a series of articles for the club mag on the pros and cons of winching, and had more than a few e-mail agreeing with me (and saying ta) PM me you e-mail and I'll ping it over if you wnat. FWIW I would suggest you buy something decent secondhand, they do come up, you'll never regret buying quality, and you'll always get your money back if you ever wnat to sell it For what you are after I would say a decent condition S/H Warn 8274 gives you evrything you will prob want for a long time to come, and they are massively "UpGradeable" for more power later failing that a Husky is greatly overlooked by many, but is a brillinat bit of kit PG winches would be a good starting place, ask for Phil Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I now use a Superwinch EP9 and am very happy with it. Nice and powerfull, fast, low power draw and a very good price One way to mount a winch not in a bumper, is to use a winch tray, mounted above the chassis, similar to what Noni has on his landy. I'm sure he'll be along soon to tell you more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Would tend to agreed with Nige,, A Huskey, maybe slow, but work when needed, and always keep their valve, had one on the first 90 years ago, and still got it ! , sometime will find itself on the back of the hybrid !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 The EP9 is the best VFM winch on the market and is the dogs dangley bits But for what you are doing there is a new winch out in the New Year, a Bowyered T-max 9.5 OUTBACK. Stronger clutch/freespool with a better design, better waterproofing, better solenoids. Not quick but massively powerful - this winch is sold as a 9.5/10/11/12 K pulling ability depending which country sells it and where they get the stickers made. DB has rated it at a 'Comfortable' 9.5K. IIRC it will retail at about 275 ex VAT. Okay it's not quick but it wees all over the Champion and is far better made than the AEW/GEW/Britpart family in standar T-max form. The Outback is the Southern Hemisphere version which comes highly rated and as we all know anything that has been sorted by DB is always good. The new commercial version of the EP9 is out in the new year as well. All parts can be bought seperately to up grade your existing winch (gues what I am going to do?) The Husky is a great winch - one of the very best, but it is bl**dy expensive, heavy and slow and the EP9 is just as reliable, stronger in the pull and has just as effective a braking ability; oh and it weighs about half as much and draws far less power at max pull/ The Husky is an old design and like the 8274, it is simple outclassed in this modern age of winches unless 'Overhauled' to the max. The other option is go hydraulic. Forget the MileMarker, go for a Superwinch H8 with a PTO pump and tank - loverly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 would agree with honiton hobbit, if you want to buy new, go for a superwinch EP9, if you want to go secondhand, then you can find almost anywinch you want for £500.... a good Warn 8274 will sort you out.. if it were me, i'd go for an EP9.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se7enUp Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 Thanks for all the advice. Got a few names to look into. I'm interested in the new "OUTBACK" It looks like its in my price range too Also the winch tray looks just the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 as i said above i do like my t-max so that outback version could be a rather good winch for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyB Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 The new commercial version of the EP9 is out in the new year as well. All parts can be bought seperately to up grade your existing winch (gues what I am going to do?) Have you any infomation on the new commercial version? I assume its a David Bowyer rework? Would this solve the water ingress issues with the EP9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Have you any infomation on the new commercial version? I assume its a David Bowyer rework?Would this solve the water ingress issues with the EP9? I think it's on hold due to expense. There are one or two tricks for water ingress though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 had one on the first 90 years ago Blimey Tim, you're showing your age Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Blimey Tim, you're showing your age Mo Mo, you know what i meant !! Sad thing is, the way you meant, and it reads, is true as well 1984, ahh remember it well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyB Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 What would those tricks be then? We are having trouble with water and our ep9. Any info on making the winch better with water nearby would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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