chrisp Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 This is a bit restricted but - I am thinking of changing my 300tdi 90 truck cab for a td5 110 double cab - but am aware that the congestion charge/TFL have low emissions regs regarding diesels coming in which may affect 'commercial vehicles' like a 110 double cab- is it about year/reg e.g. pre 200 or something else and so what is the impact on cost? Any way to avoid? or pay £8 etc only Bit odd topic but TFL website is not v helpful - surprise eh? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Rogers Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 you need to look into the london low emision zone, think it more or less applies to any defenders before the TD5 era. if they do not meet the low emision standards, its £100 a day or something stupid to drive inside the M25 area. one of the reasons i sold my 300tdi before everyone else realised about the London LEZ Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyzeus Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 do a search, theres a big thread on it. theres a website where you can put the vehicle reg in and it will tell you wether it applies to your vehicle, believe early Td5's are hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyzeus Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopi...amp;hl=emission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 According to the Tfl handbook (with a happy smiley picture of the Fuhrer inside the front page) that dropped through my letterbox today (I live in Leicester & can't remember the last time I went to London, never mind drove there): Heavier lorries Heavy diesel engined vehicles exceeding 12 tonnes GVW incl goods vehicles, motor caravans, motorised horseboxes & other specialised vehicles. Charge comes into force Feb 2008 & will apply to all vehicles that do not comply with Euro III. Vehicles first reg as new on or after 1 Oct 2001 are assumed to comply with Euro III. For these vehicles EuroIV regs will apply from Jan 2012 and vehicles registered as new on or after 1 Oct 2006 are assumed to comply with EuroIV. Lighter lorries Heavy diesel engined vehicles between 3.5 and 12 tonnes GVW incl goods vehicles, motor caravans, horseboxes & other specialised vehicles. Comes into force July 2008 then changes as above Buses and coaches Diesel engined passenger vehicles with more than 8 seats, plus the drivers seat, exceeding 5 tonnes GVW. Comes into force Jan 2012 as EuroIV Large vans Diesel engined vehicles between 1.205 tonnes unladen and 3.5 tonnes GVW and motor caravans and ambulances between 2.5 tonnes and 3.5 tonnes GVW. Comes into force Oct 2010. Vehicles registered as new on or after 1 Jan 2002 are assumed to be Euro III so will meet the LEZ standard Minibuses Diesel engined passenger vehicles with more than 8 seats, plus the drivers seat, below 5 tonnes GVW. All details as at Large vans Area shown in the book is pretty much the area inside the M25. It does not apply to cars, motorcycles or small vans (under 1.205 tonnes unladen weight) In the preamble it says 'The Low Emission Zone will affect older diesel engined lorries, buses, coaches, large vans (exceeding 1.205 tonnes unladen weight) and minibuses (over 8 seats and below 5 tonnes). It will also include other specialist vehicles that are derived from lorries and vans including: motorised horseboxes; breakdown and recovery vehicles; refuse collection vehicles; gritters; road sweepers; concrete mixers; tippers; removals lorries; fire engines; extended-cab dual purpose pickups (those with two rows of seats) and some Land Rovers. Motor caravans, abulances and large hearses (over 2.5 tonnes) are also included.' To check if your vehicle is exempt you should go to the 'vehicle compliance checker' at tfl.gov.uk/lezlondon or call 0845 607 0009 There are also various comments about how to get older vehicles to comply which basically involve throwing money at them to fit filters etc which you can look up for yourselves!!!! Or just get something with a petrol engine & LPG it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 anyone investigated if running on Vege oil means you are exempt? as it a green fuel, and a renewable energy source i'd have thought it should be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyzeus Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 it will not be exempt, the LEZ is based on information that the DVLA hold according to what your vehicle was when built by the manufacturer, if its a diesel it dont matter what it runs on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp Posted September 21, 2007 Author Share Posted September 21, 2007 it will not be exempt, the LEZ is based on information that the DVLA hold according to what your vehicle was when built by the manufacturer, if its a diesel it dont matter what it runs on I have just called CC/TFL and asked about fact my 90 has a 2004 TDi 300 new engine and so it may be Euro III - apparently if I send Cert and V5 they will look at whether I will be xempt in 2010 - mind you I am thinking of selling hence question about 110 Double Cabs - looking for one after 2001 with off road bits but has to be good looking because of work/customers - my 90 looks like its just left a war zone - v characterful all set up but...too rugged Chrisp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top90 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Just to add... It's not EURO III in full, I believe it's EURO III for Particulate Matter only. There is more than one requirement of EURO III, but only the Particulate Matter requirements apply for the LEZ so some EURO I and II vehicles will meet the legislation without change. By the time the legislation comes out it will be possible to buy an exhaust filter to bring particulates on many EURO I and II vehicles (those that don't comply) to within the LEZ requirements. The filters are currently expensive, but as more people start to prepare for the change and more companies produce them the prices are coming down. Rich (East London PSV operator) PS. Also M1 class (passenger vehicles) station wagons may well be exempt as 'cars' (not doublecab) Copied from website... "Vehicles not meeting the emissions standard could be made to do so by modifying them to meet the Euro III standard for particulate matter." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Blades Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 According to today's Metro newspaper, the upcoming extension of the LEZ to smaller vehicles (I assume this includes Land Rovers) will be suspended due to the current economic climate. This has to pass via some committees but is good news none the less. TB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazelle Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 There have been two recent threads about this here and here Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_J Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 it will not be exempt, the LEZ is based on information that the DVLA hold according to what your vehicle was when built by the manufacturer, if its a diesel it dont matter what it runs on And according to the government diesel is dirty. Even though you get bettery economy on it. But obviously a V8 being thrashed around doing 12MPG is fine... When I can afford it I'm leaving this country, I had always planned on it anyway but everytime the government makes an announcement it just makes me want to go more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Where are you thinking of going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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