Mack Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Anybody knows of a web page to download the Workshop Manual for the new Defender? Local dealer is hopeless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Probably without you realising it, what you are asking can be re-phrased as: Has anyone paid to subscribe to the Land Rover Global Technical Resource, taken the time and trouble to download all the Workshop and Electrical Manuals, plus any Technical Bulletins and Service Recalls, then paid to host a site where I can take them for free, while the site holder hopes Land Rover don't prosecute them for copyright infringement on documentation for current models? Phrased like that, you see why the answer might be 'No'. The good news is that you, as a private individual, can take out a subscription, for a fairly short term, and do the intensive download of 'everything' before the subscription expires. http://www.landrovertechinfo.com/extlrprod/index.jsp The hosting it all for free, etc, is optional :-) I run obsolete models, so am not faced with these decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsbok Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 The good news is that you, as a private individual, can take out a subscription, for a fairly short term, and do the intensive download of 'everything' before the subscription expires.http://www.landrovertechinfo.com/extlrprod/index.jsp Is there an option of ordering a printed manual, or am I being hopelessly naive?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Is there an option of ordering a printed manual, or am I being hopelessly naive?? No there isn't, and the GTR format is not like RAVE where you could effectively hit "print" and 1300 pages later end up with a workshop manual, because it is all in sections so would probably take you weeks. David is, as ever, grumpily accurate in his response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 Probably because this is still "too" new. The whole Td5 can be downloaded though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsbok Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 No there isn't, and the GTR format is not like RAVE where you could effectively hit "print" and 1300 pages later end up with a workshop manual, because it is all in sections so would probably take you weeks.David is, as ever, grumpily accurate in his response Bizarre, so the dealers don't have a paper manual either... This must become a nightmare in countries where internet infrastructure is not well developed, i.e. the very countries in which people might also think of driving a Defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Despite some arrogant answers above I can comment that LR would not issue proper manuals until certain number of cars are sold. I think this happened with some RR model. Just tech bulletins. I was told. regards M Bizarre, so the dealers don't have a paper manual either... This must become a nightmare in countries where internet infrastructure is not well developed, i.e. the very countries in which people might also think of driving a Defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bean Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Give it a few more months and "Haynes" will publish something that is nearly right some of the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Bizarre, so the dealers don't have a paper manual either... This must become a nightmare in countries where internet infrastructure is not well developed, i.e. the very countries in which people might also think of driving a Defender He's got a point, assuming that the new model is available in such countries and they're not still buying the more field-maintainable 300Tdi's - do you know gemsbok? (no internet connection snobbery intended - you're obviously connected!). Maybe there is a nice little earner in you getting friendly with your local LR dealer and selling the paper manuals over here fleabay?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 He's got a point, assuming that the new model is available in such countries and they're not still buying the more field-maintainable 300Tdi's - do you know gemsbok? (no internet connection snobbery intended - you're obviously connected!).Maybe there is a nice little earner in you getting friendly with your local LR dealer and selling the paper manuals over here fleabay?!? The 300Tdis have all stopped now, they were sold here until being discontinued about 18 months ago. There are no paper manuals for any countries and no plans to make any. And yes it is a PITA in places where there are customers who are in the back end of beyond with stinky dial-up internet connections - like here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Its not just Landrover, that will not be doing paper manuals etc, All manufacturers are the same, we have not had Volvo ones for at lease 6 years now, most things ie manuals, repair procedures, software downloads, etc are done via Internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsbok Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 He's got a point, assuming that the new model is available in such countries and they're not still buying the more field-maintainable 300Tdi's - do you know gemsbok? (no internet connection snobbery intended - you're obviously connected!).Maybe there is a nice little earner in you getting friendly with your local LR dealer and selling the paper manuals over here fleabay?!? Fortunately Botswana has good internet connections (in the major towns). Thus for the dealer in Gabs it will not be a problem. However not all the countries in the region are as wealthy as Botswana, and thus quality of infrastructure does vary considerably. Fibre optic cables are not directly available to all countries and this means relying on neighbouring countries at high cost, or satellites, also at high cost. I appreciate Mack's point that a paper manual might not come out simultaneously with the new model, but given that in parts of Africa many of these vehicles will be owned and operated hundreds of km from a dealer and / or internet connection the lack of a paper manual does seem unfortunate. If you want a new Defender in Southern Africa at least, it will be a TDCi, and as vehicles hold there value well here I thought the difference between an out of warranty TD5 and a new TDCi worth paying. As far as I understand in other African markets, older models are still available new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Gemsbok, some interesting and useful points from outside the usual UK centric view. As a matter of interest, in the circumstances you describe and experience, what is the viability of manuals on a CD, and therefore needing some sort of player to access? Or manuals on a small storage device, such as a PDA? My view of the UK is that while UK enthusiasts, such as the bulk of the people on this forum, will accept packing a laptop or PDA as almost common, the average UK LR user would object to such an expensive and technical answer. Of course, they are much closer to viable external support, so self reliance is not such an issue. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsbok Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Gemsbok, some interesting and useful points from outside the usual UK centric view.As a matter of interest, in the circumstances you describe and experience, what is the viability of manuals on a CD, and therefore needing some sort of player to access? Or manuals on a small storage device, such as a PDA? To be fair, almost anyone who is going to buy a new TDCi is almost certain to possess a computer, most likely a laptop, wherever they are based and may frequently travel with it so a CD for "home" use would be a good step in the right direction. Taking a laptop into the bush however is another story (I like to imagine that the laptop would be broken before the vehicle )! PDAs might be a solution for a serious operator running a fleet of vehicles in remote areas, but probably not for the average owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 You sound like a geologist To be fair, almost anyone who is going to buy a new TDCi is almost certain to possess a computer, most likely a laptop, wherever they are based and may frequently travel with it so a CD for "home" use would be a good step in the right direction. Taking a laptop into the bush however is another story (I like to imagine that the laptop would be broken before the vehicle )! PDAs might be a solution for a serious operator running a fleet of vehicles in remote areas, but probably not for the average owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 You sound like a geologist Is that good or bad ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would say excellent!.....I do that Is that good or bad ? Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsbok Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Could have been - but ended up following a more agricultural path, in the field of animal health and production... I suppose I was thinking of safari lodges and tour companies that might run a fleet. The govt here uses a lot of Defenders too. I fear that most of the geologists have opted for the main competitor. You sound like a geologist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Then, they would not need a workshop manual I guess . I fear that most of the geologists have opted for the main competitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Hi Looking for defender manual check out ebay http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Auto-Factory-Manuals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Auto-Factory-Manuals Item Summary - Cars, Parts & Vehicles Literature Type: Workshop Manuals Media Type: CD Vehicle Type: Cars Manufacturer: Land Rover Model: Defender Year: 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999 Pity it misses the 2007 year that Mack was asking about. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumich Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 HI, here we go there is everything u need http://www.landrover.ee/est/varia/downloads/cars.htm have a nice time with that Jkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 HI, here we go there is everything u need http://www.landrover.ee/est/varia/downloads/cars.htm have a nice time with that Jkb Thanks, but I believe the 2007 is not there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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