DSN Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I am after some wire clamps for my 8mm cable but am struggling to find any. I found some firms with a Google search but they only seem to want to sell to trade, not a couple to Joe Bloggs. Does anyone have any suggestions where I could get some from? Could do with some this week as will be out at James' event on Saturday. I believe I need 3 clamps for a safe joint. Any info gratefully received. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 No joins are safe Dan! get a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 No joins are safe Dan!get a replacement. What he probably mean is he wants 3 to carrry in the car with him to make an emergency safe joint. In reply to the original question i've bought them in the past from farm supplies places, and i think i've seen them in B&Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALFY Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 No joins are safe Dan!get a replacement. Disagree there Tony. You can put a loop safely in SWR using the throated clamps. All depends on the size of the SWR as to the size and number and positioning of clamps. You cannot join SWR end to end in a safe manner. You can join it with a certain knot for the life of me I can't remember it's name, but I wouldn't trust it to dangle me from a big drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Your welcomed to disagree but I think this is a highly risky option the price of wire rope is so low as to be probably half the cost again of the clamps and life/limbs aren't readily available at an suppliers I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemarker Type S Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Yacht chandlers sell the clamps... I would not personally recommend using a wire rope joined or terminated with them for what we do- I think the rules may also exclude their use as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnover4x4 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Try "RS componants" they will sell you a few over the counter. Worth carrying a length of heat shrink with you or insulating tape as temp measure. Heat shrink can be applied with the aid of a lighter flame. Best to get the flt rectified as quick as poss as you dont want a winch wire chaffing & shorting out. One other thing the crimping tool for this size of wire is quite large! Im sure youll and up using a hammer but make sure they are repaired properly afterwards. Adrian It appears I have misread thepost & thought you were on about supply wires... Im agreement with white90 here, probably better to shorten the rope than rejoin. Guaranteed you be thinking "How strong is that join" every time you winch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Am sure Dan is not thinking about jointing 8mm wire winch rope Something LIKE THIS i am guessing, and to secure the cable end in the winch drum ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Mole Valley farmers sell something very similar.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSN Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 It was for allowing me to put a new loop in, not to join! Found some today in narrow boat chandlery that I never knew was there. Grest place with all sorts of stuff so will remember for future. Anyway clamps now just a back up solution if worst case should ever happen and need to get out of a hole. New cable planned for this weekend. Cheers for info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALFY Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Dan I'll have a look at work tomorrow for specs. The strength come from the orientation of the clamps, spacing and quantity. Specs will be to military safety standards not civvy. So you can make your own conclusions from the specs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 DanI'll have a look at work tomorrow for specs. The strength come from the orientation of the clamps, spacing and quantity. Specs will be to military safety standards not civvy. So you can make your own conclusions from the specs down to a budget then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALFY Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Not neccessarily so young Jamie. Usualy they kick the arse out of it where safety is mentioned. So far have only found out that you can use normal cordage knots to join SWR but any tight radii must be packed with round timber to stop any kinking and deformation to the SWR. Will look at more books this afternoon with regards to the clamp arrangements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Dan ,I have a spare brand new 150ft of 3/8" cable that came with a new winch I fitted for Shaunus , I can bring it down on sat if you like ,But you will have to see Shaun for the cash , cant imagine its worth much more than £20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSN Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Dan ,I have a spare brand new 150ft of 3/8" cable that came with a new winch I fitted for Shaunus , I can bring it down on sat if you like ,But you will have to see Shaun for the cash , cant imagine its worth much more than £20 Ciderman, Cheers for the offer but I am now sorted. Also suspect 150ft would be a little long for my needs. See you Saturday in a nice field in glorious sunshine no doubt!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 You can make a new loop in cable. It is called a flemish loop, and we used it for battle damage repair....on aircraft control cables. If done properly, it is perfectly safe. If done badly.......PING!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WALFY Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Not neccessarily so young Jamie. Usualy they kick the arse out of it where safety is mentioned.So far have only found out that you can use normal cordage knots to join SWR but any tight radii must be packed with round timber to stop any kinking and deformation to the SWR. Will look at more books this afternoon with regards to the clamp arrangements Still looking but can't seem to find the correct booklet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treebloke Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 In the old days we used to use SWR for bracing limbs/tight forks but fortunately we now use much better synthetic rope with bungees. However, British Standards state the the bulldog grips should be 6 times the dia of the rope apart min 3 grips, the nuts should be on the long length of the rope (the bit that goes onto the drum) with U on the short end. It is essential to use a thimble. No idea what the torque is for the nuts though, probably FT. I have seen the wire pull through he grips when not tight enough. We also used to splice SWR, quite easy when you have seen someone do it and a much better finish than bulldog grips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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